dream car Version *2 the dream garage

[CAptynCrunch]

Ok Cbass, you've got it mostly right here, and I see no real difference between what you said and what I said. I simply did not mention the weight transfer.

However theres one thing I need to comment on.

Originally posted by Cbass
The reason people heel-toe before corners is because they are using as much of the braking potential, or longitudinal traction of the tires as they can to deccelerate, and they need the smoothest shifts possible, so they do not send drivetrain jolts through to the rear wheels, which would result in possible traction loss. Heel-toing is common practice in most forms of road racing, not just drift.

Using the maximum ammount of braking and not wanting to jar the vehicle has nothing to do with WHY heel-toe is used. If a driver wanted to keep their vehicle as stable as possible they simply wouldn't shift at te entrance to a corner at all.

The reason why they do it is because they need to have the car in the proper gear so as to give access to the maximum possible power immediately after braking. You could just as easily do this by braking earlier, then down shifting after braking but before turn-in. Heel-toe is used because it allows you to shift while braking, therefore effectivly saving time.

Finally, the ammount of stress put on the drivetrain, and therefore the ammount of jarring of the vehicle has nothing to do with what method you use to shift, only on your skill. If your good enough you could shift like normal just as smoothly as heel-toeing, it's just heel-toe is faster and can be done at the same time as braking.

[Tony]

Both of you are correct here, just missing each others point. Yes the Heel-Toe downshift is used to keep you speed up such as captain said, and also it is used to get a nice smooth downshift as cbass said. So see both of you have a correct view on this. Now to tell you the truth, I have no hard facts saying that this is correct, but after hearing BOTH of those opinions so many times, I'm pretty sure they are both correct, just depends how you use it.

[GTi-VR6_A3]

damnit you guys are all making me want to quit school and work go steal some car and become a drift master. it all sounds like too much fun. ill be back later iwth my pix

-GTi-VR6_A3

[Monkey-Magic-S15-R]

yone tried heel and toe i tried to practise on a stationary vehicle and i just can't twist my leg enough for it to work ................CRAP

[Tony]

Yea, i can't twist my leg enough either, but with my car i can use the Wide foot method works great

[Monkey-Magic-S15-R]

Originally posted by Tony
Yea, i can't twist my leg enough either, but with my car i can use the Wide foot method works great

WTF is wide foot? you mean like the tip of yo foot on two pedals ......doesn't it slip off?

[Typhoon]

there are so many to choose from....But i think these a 2 of my favorites.

[Tony]

I put the left edge of my foot on the brake, and the right edge on the gas works great so far.

[endlesskev86]

FD3S... post some pics later

[GTi-VR6_A3]

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-GTi-VR6_A3

[Monkey-Magic-S15-R]

Originally posted by GTi-VR6_A3
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-GTi-VR6_A3

it says girlfriend in his sig ........

[Cbass]

Congrats on having a hottie like that as a girlfriend

I think we are pretty much in agreement, Captyn. I assumed it was a given you have to be in the right gear for the corner, and that maximum braking power is needed. At that point, the heel toe method makes a major difference

[Tony]

I want a girlfriend like that...she got any friends

[Monkey-Magic-S15-R]

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[endlesskev86]

lol......