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I hate to say it, but what about the Miata?! Throw a supercharger on, a decent suspension, and your flying!
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924 all the way

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Heck Cbass, the guy said he's chopping on the cheap. I just used the Caterham as a guide for what it takes to win autocross.

Believe it or not, DemonZX, the Miata's big for autocrossing. Common, but big. Plus there's too much natural body lean. You've got to snake through those cones, and starting out with an inch and a half of travel helps a ton.

Well, at least it's big around here. Remember, Ohio is the home of the SCCA Runoffs. There are more super-tuned racing classic British cars around her then at Donington Park.
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Miatas are really good pics for autoX, but they aren't the best value for the money.

When it comes down to it, a 924, RX7 or a GTS can be picked up for less than $2000, and the rest of that cash can be put into suspension, gears, tires, you name it. The same is true of the Spitfire, but you've got to remember, I'm a Porsche/RX7 Nazi
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Old 01-22-2003, 07:27 AM
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Zig Hial! or however you spell it!
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A contender

Well dont leave the Buick Reatta out of the race!!
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like the you-never-get-to-the-top-of-second-gear type of tight....
Xactly. Theres a big difference between a corolla and a skyline
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WRX, STI(when it comes out), EVO8(WICO), any 3 series BMW, M3 if you got the cash, VW GTI, ford focus SVT, honda Si, S2k,civic,Audi a4, A4 avont, RSX.
I think you missed the part about it being cheap.

While I'll agree the STI is a great choice it is also VERY expensive. For inexpesive I would go with a Toyota Celica GTS All-Trac Turbo or an older MR2 Turbo.
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Octagon, did you go to the last runoffs at mid ohio?
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back to the point...

a competent driver in an average car can run faster than alot of cars... even ones that are faster...

b/c in autocross...

you don't get much over 45-50mph... so...

the older gti is a great option... you can make them oversteer easily.

the crx or older si hatchback isn't a bad option. dominates vettes in alot of autocross events...

the older prelude handles great and has tq. important, b/c you're running at lower speeds where tq is important.

if you had that really good driver in a yugo vs. an ok driver in a skyline on an autocross course... the yugo would win. it sucks. but he'd win. it's not about the car, it's about the driver
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Well....Driver is the biggest, but then....braking & acceleration & suspension?. You could be a great driver, but if there is a car that is quicker (not faster) quicker, and more agile I believe the latter would win. Given the driver is not a complete Moron! i.e. part of my crew!
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we are talking about autocross though... alot of cars are on a different level there...

most of the time autocross isn't over 50mph, which means you have to be smooth, not just brutally quick...

i understand you point, and my point is kinda lame, but i do know of focus owners that beat vettes at the autocross... and we're not talking wildly modded foci...

but they'd get owned on the street...

you can have the best car, but if you aren't smooth...
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Old 01-22-2003, 04:17 PM
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Oh, Yeah! If you screw up a shift or over/understeer the littlest bit you will lose your ass to a good driver. I got your point! I was pretty much saying that acceleration is also very imortant. Thats why light cars are so damn good. If you took a stock yugo vs. skyline I do believe the skyline would win. If you modded the yugo a small bit, and put the same suspension on it. Yugo all the way!
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AutoX is about 90% driver, 10% car.

I will ask my uncle to send me his VHS tape of him beating lambo's, lotus' and other exotic cars in his Chevy Lumina auto.
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In all seriousness, although i may be a bit biased, an S4 S5 Turbo II with suspension upgrades and some lightening could be a real killa!
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