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[hybridsol]

(We had 1) some are still in process, but you can't buy a 2003 if thats what you mean. There's always the type-S, but I like the ITR.

[flylwsi]

why would you want a honda car if you are able to spend that kinda dough on a car?

especially if you want a car that's best suited to being a race car...

buy an older subaru 2.5rs and swap in the 2.2 sti motor from the older sti. that would be kinda sick.

and cheap. and awd.

or you could find a supra, or a 240sx, and build it... for under 40k.

if you want a honda, get one, but you'll be disappointed by the money you have to spend to be as fast as some other cars

especially cars that are purpose built sports cars... (front engine, rear drive, not upgraded econo cars)

i'm not knockin honda, but they're not sports cars. when honda decided to build a purpose built sports car, they built the s2k. rear drive... see what i'm getting at?

and you said you wanted to run 10s. have fun doing that anywhere near streetable in a honda.

it's way more feasible in a large displacement or turbo rwd car.

[hybridsol]

Originally posted by flylwsi
why would you want a honda car if you are able to spend that kinda dough on a car?

especially if you want a car that's best suited to being a race car...

buy an older subaru 2.5rs and swap in the 2.2 sti motor from the older sti. that would be kinda sick.

and cheap. and awd.

or you could find a supra, or a 240sx, and build it... for under 40k.

if you want a honda, get one, but you'll be disappointed by the money you have to spend to be as fast as some other cars

especially cars that are purpose built sports cars... (front engine, rear drive, not upgraded econo cars)

i'm not knockin honda, but they're not sports cars. when honda decided to build a purpose built sports car, they built the s2k. rear drive... see what i'm getting at?

and you said you wanted to run 10s. have fun doing that anywhere near streetable in a honda.

This is your opinion...... not mine, Honda has many sports cars, that are far more inexpensive than the cars you just listed (not saying that these cars coulden't be modified to run excellent times with low funds). Yes contrary to what you believe you are "knocking honda", not all sports cars are rear wheel drive. I'm running low 10's in a crx we spent 4 grand on, Doubleoverhead is probably running a high 10 in a gsr, and I run 11's in a delsol. Thats just ppl I know I gaurentee there are ppl just as fast/faster utilizing honda's. An ITR is a sports car, as is an si and so on. Almost every car company makes econo boxes, not just honda.

[Self]

Originally posted by hybridsol

This is your opinion...... not mine, Honda has many sports cars, that are far more inexpensive than the cars you just listed (not saying that these cars coulden't be modified to run excellent times with low funds). Yes contrary to what you believe you are "knocking honda", not all sports cars are rear wheel drive. I'm running low 10's in a crx we spent 4 grand on, Doubleoverhead is probably running a high 10 in a gsr, and I run 11's in a delsol. Thats just ppl I know I gaurentee there are ppl just as fast/faster utilizing honda's. An ITR is a sports car, as is an si and so on. Almost every car company makes econo boxes, not just honda.

Agreed...You might have heard of a guy named Norris, hyrbid. He owns a shop here in Northern Virginia, called Nu Image. 10 second Teg and an 11 second SI. Good guy, travels all over to race. Just bought himself a HUGE trailer to haul the Integra around in. Think you may have heard of or seen him, you're right in Penn. right? I know he goes all up and down the East Coast showing and racing.

[Steel]

Well if *I* had that kinda money, i'd do a cosmo swap to my FC, then mod that (port, bigger badder turbo, you know) And have my self a low 10 FC. for aobut 25K total. And who would expect a slow old POS RX-7 right?? heehee.

Then again im kind of partial too, and i know FC's aren't new.

[flylwsi]

considering i own a heavily modded honda, i know where you're coming from...

but if you have that much cash... why start with something that will be limited almost immediately ?

and on my point... honda built a purpose built sports car. s2k. nsx.

they adopted some fwd cars to be sports coupes, but not full on sports cars like supras, vettes, and what not.

i love my prelude, and i'll keep it forever, but with fwd, there's a trade off. either you run fast in a straight line, or your run fast on the twisty stuff. there's not that trade off with a supra, vette, silvia conversion 240, or many other rwd cars.

i know i can't go super fast in a straight line, but i know i can catch and conquer in the twisties. that's why i have my car.

if i had my choice, i'd have a rwd car though.

and again, no. i'm not knocking hondas. i'm just saying they're limited b/c of fwd. as any fwd car is, not just honda.

[DblOvrhedCamron]

Originally posted by flylwsi
considering i own a heavily modded honda, i know where you're coming from...

but if you have that much cash... why start with something that will be limited almost immediately ?

and on my point... honda built a purpose built sports car. s2k. nsx.

they adopted some fwd cars to be sports coupes, but not full on sports cars like supras, vettes, and what not.

i love my prelude, and i'll keep it forever, but with fwd, there's a trade off. either you run fast in a straight line, or your run fast on the twisty stuff. there's not that trade off with a supra, vette, silvia conversion 240, or many other rwd cars.

i know i can't go super fast in a straight line, but i know i can catch and conquer in the twisties. that's why i have my car.

if i had my choice, i'd have a rwd car though.

and again, no. i'm not knocking hondas. i'm just saying they're limited b/c of fwd. as any fwd car is, not just honda.

limited almost imediatly???????? WTF are you talking about, Were still working on upgrades for the CRX its all about the front wheel drive and the limited slip diff. Also Why the hell is everyone obsessed with burnouts? I want my car to grip off the line? The fact that its front wheel drive means very little, besides better traction comes from weight to the front of the car, (the engine). I will admit I don't think that honda's are the best cars for drifting, but some ppl like to run the twisties with them.

[flylwsi]

i don't think i mentioned burnouts, or drifting.

my point is that a honda becomes almost purpose built when you want to run, say, 11 or lower (this is my opinion, mind you, don't jump down my throat), it starts to become a track only car.

i like cars that can hit a road course quickly and hit the drag strip quickly. and drive home.

if it's a fwd car, you have to settle for a little slower 1/4 than you would with a comparable equipped rwd car.

i understand this is about traction, but you are again limited there.

there's alot of fast rwd and awd cars that run ridiculous 1/4 times with no modification.

and ideally, you want the weight to transfer onto the drive wheels, which a fwd car doesn't do.

that's why you have to work on the suspension, as you said you are, to get it to put the power down.

so... when i said limited, i meant you would have to modify it to get more out of it. as you said you are doing.

is my point making sense yet?

[Self]

Originally posted by flylwsi
i don't think i mentioned burnouts, or drifting.

my point is that a honda becomes almost purpose built when you want to run, say, 11 or lower (this is my opinion, mind you, don't jump down my throat), it starts to become a track only car.

i like cars that can hit a road course quickly and hit the drag strip quickly. and drive home.

if it's a fwd car, you have to settle for a little slower 1/4 than you would with a comparable equipped rwd car.

i understand this is about traction, but you are again limited there.

there's alot of fast rwd and awd cars that run ridiculous 1/4 times with no modification.

and ideally, you want the weight to transfer onto the drive wheels, which a fwd car doesn't do.

that's why you have to work on the suspension, as you said you are, to get it to put the power down.

so... when i said limited, i meant you would have to modify it to get more out of it. as you said you are doing.

is my point making sense yet?

Yea, I agree with you here. fwd isn't as good as rwd for the quarter. Fact of life. Not to say that fwd can't run with rwd or anything, just like he said, between comparatively equipped fwd and rwd cars, teh rwd will win the race. Or at least win in the 60'

And Honda's(excluding the s2k and nsx) are not true sports cars. They're sport compacts. Not saying that's a bad thing, but there is definately a difference.

[flylwsi]

that's my point really...
if you want to build a car that can do both, run the 1/4, and the road course, in respectable times, fwd isn't really the way to go.

that was all my point was. i want an all around car...

and the notion of running a 10 sec 1/4 was brought up, and have fun doing that in a street honda. right...

i know my cars limits.

[-The Stig-]

Errrrrrrr You're all wrong...

its all about the '94 Ford F350s...




Yeah... ownage...! :hehehe:

[flylwsi]

only if it's an all orange crew cab dually that's had all the handles shaved, and it's bagged on the ground on 19in dually wheels.

and i mean on the ground...

then i'll take your f350...

[-The Stig-]

Actually I prefer Chevy 3500HD Crew Cab Duallys with a 4/6 Drop.


I just threw in the Ford for the hell of it.

[flylwsi]

you could do the same with that chevy...

as long as it's bagged to the ground. only way i would drive it...

[DblOvrhedCamron]

Originally posted by flylwsi
i don't think i mentioned burnouts, or drifting.

my point is that a honda becomes almost purpose built when you want to run, say, 11 or lower (this is my opinion, mind you, don't jump down my throat), it starts to become a track only car.

i like cars that can hit a road course quickly and hit the drag strip quickly. and drive home.

if it's a fwd car, you have to settle for a little slower 1/4 than you would with a comparable equipped rwd car.

i understand this is about traction, but you are again limited there.

there's alot of fast rwd and awd cars that run ridiculous 1/4 times with no modification.

and ideally, you want the weight to transfer onto the drive wheels, which a fwd car doesn't do.

that's why you have to work on the suspension, as you said you are, to get it to put the power down.

so... when i said limited, i meant you would have to modify it to get more out of it. as you said you are doing.

is my point making sense yet?

I garentee I'm running a low 11. maybe even a 10 if I decide on bringing up my boost. Limited slip differential is a way of gripping without rwd.

To self An S2k isint a sport compact????????
Yes they are all sports cars. Who are you to say there not? Its all opinion right?

Fly What's your Idea of "heavily modded prelude", evidentilly you don't really grasp short lift technology and high RPM? you can still do that with your prelude.