pro's and con's

[EhyBrah123]

this is true... but im stuck right now... i no these r 2 completly different cars but im considering both bc im looking for one i can mod after i buy, ones a stealth tt for 6k and only has 88k miles on it.... the other is a SRT-4 03, with 75k miles and cost 10k....

im looking for a car that i could use as a daily drive but then on the weekends kill bitches...

thanx for all the help also

[Crackhedbob341]

i've been in and out of this thread at work and school.

theres a guy at my school who has a 1st gen tt stealth. i think it's worth it if you can get rated on another car. insurance won't be so bad. the vr-4 or stealth tt don't get good gas milage, but what turbo'd car does?

personal preference. if you have a steady job, go for it. don't go for the srt-4. are you an experienced driver? do you have raging hormones? i bought my car from my old lady math teacher at the end of sophomore year. i can't say i don't race a lot, but i am to the point where i can handle my power, and need more (like a twin turbo)

go for it. it will be worth it in the end, instead of saying "Damn, wish i did when i had the chance"

[vectorspecialist]

u can be 29, and still drive like an idiot therefor making a tt 3s a bad option...we had an example on here a few wks ago of just that situation.

i'm 20, the only thing i've ever done bad with my 92 tt, hit a tree, and thats cause i lost traction in the snow going down the driveway

[Girly VR-4]

EhyBrah123: I've got a 92 TT, 74k miles, 93 Vr4 engine (forged crank, 4 bolt main) w/65k miles, rebuilt transmission that shifts PERFECTLY!!!, and a brand new paint job and near perfect interior for 7500. I'm willing to guarantee the quality of the car. lol

And I'm located in PA... a few hour drive from MD

[EhyBrah123]

haha yeah iv seen ur Stealth for sale... tht cars is RLY nice...

but the only reason why im leaning tword the 03 SRT-4 is because it get like 29/36 mpg... n iv seen it don so i know it does tht (when u drive it like u rly should be driving it) and the car is turboed, thts a rly big reason why im leaning more tword it... n also bc its an 03 compared to a 93... parts are goina be alot easyer to get... also like people were saying earlyer.. tht isnt it goina cost me crazy money to get sumthen fixed on it? like no joke iv seen a VR4 stay in a shop for months at a time... sad story actually, this guy got his VR4 n had it for like 3 months n got into an accident n it was in the shop for like 3 months got it back, n then 8 minutes on the road an idiot runs a red light n tailes the hell outta him... tht happen in september, and he just got his car back this past week.. he said it was because the ppl had a probelm finding the parts and then getting them on... thts my only conser, is if i drop a ton of money on tht car then the smallest thing can happen and i wont get it back for months bc of finding parts and getting someone to get em on at a price i could pay for

plz post back to this, i rly want to know what you think of it now

[Girly VR-4]

Originally Posted by EhyBrah123

haha yeah iv seen ur Stealth for sale... tht cars is RLY nice...

but the only reason why im leaning tword the 03 SRT-4 is because it get like 29/36 mpg... n iv seen it don so i know it does tht (when u drive it like u rly should be driving it) and the car is turboed, thts a rly big reason why im leaning more tword it... n also bc its an 03 compared to a 93... parts are goina be alot easyer to get... also like people were saying earlyer.. tht isnt it goina cost me crazy money to get sumthen fixed on it? like no joke iv seen a VR4 stay in a shop for months at a time... sad story actually, this guy got his VR4 n had it for like 3 months n got into an accident n it was in the shop for like 3 months got it back, n then 8 minutes on the road an idiot runs a red light n tailes the hell outta him... tht happen in september, and he just got his car back this past week.. he said it was because the ppl had a probelm finding the parts and then getting them on... thts my only conser, is if i drop a ton of money on tht car then the smallest thing can happen and i wont get it back for months bc of finding parts and getting someone to get em on at a price i could pay for

plz post back to this, i rly want to know what you think of it now

I have about 3 cars worth of any parts you could ever need for that car, and I can guarantee the transmission (because it's out of my personal car that my dad drove for the last 40k miles, and some old lady had it before him, then a lawyer before that), and have no doubt in my mind about the engine and rest of the car

As for how long it's in the shop.... it just depends on what shop you take it to, and what's being done. Sometimes they're in for hours, sometimes days, sometimes months.

Drive a Vr-4/TT like it should (casually), and you'll get mid 20's/gallon

another thing... the srt-4 is fwd... TT/Vr4 is AWD. better traction in bad weather.

[VR43000GT]

Originally Posted by Crackhedbob341

i've been in and out of this thread at work and school.

theres a guy at my school who has a 1st gen tt stealth. i think it's worth it if you can get rated on another car. insurance won't be so bad. the vr-4 or stealth tt don't get good gas milage, but what turbo'd car does?

personal preference. if you have a steady job, go for it. don't go for the srt-4. are you an experienced driver? do you have raging hormones? i bought my car from my old lady math teacher at the end of sophomore year. i can't say i don't race a lot, but i am to the point where i can handle my power, and need more (like a twin turbo)

go for it. it will be worth it in the end, instead of saying "Damn, wish i did when i had the chance"

Subaru WRX, Legacy GT, SRT-4, VW Jetta 1.8T (along with there other 1.8T vehicles) to name just a few.


I would say for a 17 year old this is definately NOT a good daily driver. Can they be reliable? Yes. However, if you compared them to true reliable sportier cars, they are not. Most every single person I know with one has had a fair amount of problems or at least a few. And when things do break they are not cheap and sometimes not easy to find. TT's are not especially great on gas mileage either.

[vectorspecialist]

um...might wanna check to see if your insurance company insures srt4's. not all company's do. think 230-ish hp and inch wide tires...fwd and torque steer galore. the srt is a good alternative to a vr4/tt. it gives the turbo so u can kinda get used to the idea of a "surge" of power. and it's a compact sport, not sport, therefor a lil cheaper if u can insure it

[Crackhedbob341]

Originally Posted by SL3000gt

Subaru WRX, Legacy GT, SRT-4, VW Jetta 1.8T (along with there other 1.8T vehicles) to name just a few.

great... but now let's compare them to a honda civic, or any other n/a 4 banger. turbo will = less mpg

Originally Posted by SL3000gt

TT's are not especially great on gas mileage either.

exactly my point.

[AutostradaVR4]

strait line performance, the TT/VR-4 and the SRT-4 are actually very comperable. But when you factor in grip and cornering, the 3/s is just miles ahead.

I was debating the same thing when i was car shopping...VR-4 vs SRT-4. But, not for the reasons you are. I actually test drove an SRT-4 and came pretty close to buying it. The main thing that steered me away was price (back then it was a new vehicle).

For you...just weigh out all the differences. 3/s looks better, is more unique, and more capable handling. SRT is newer, cheaper to own/mod (probably), and still has great strait line speed and ok cornering, and gets better MPG.

[DCIV]

Back when mine had 550 injectors I drove it back from AL and it got 27mpg, I didnt take it easy either. Just make sure you know how to work on your own car or you will be broke quickly.


Coop

[AutostradaVR4]

Originally Posted by DCIV

Back when mine had 550 injectors I drove it back from AL and it got 27mpg, I didnt take it easy either. Just make sure you know how to work on your own car or you will be broke quickly.


Coop

Thats just insane for a vr4. The best ive been able to pull was 23.5. havnt measured strictly highway though.

[vectorspecialist]

the best i ever got with the tt was 25...rt81 south to VA in september.

and not all turbo's are bad...TDi anybody? i believe vw is getting around 50mpg with those cars...even the civic hybrid doesnt get that much

[VR43000GT]

Originally Posted by Crackhedbob341

great... but now let's compare them to a honda civic, or any other n/a 4 banger. turbo will = less mpg




exactly my point.

You asked what got good gas mileage, I told you what did, and they do. That is like me saying now, well the Honda Civic? Let's take a look at the Prius, it gets better mileage. And it came if that your point was that turbo cars don't get good gas mileage. That is what I took from this specific quote of yours, "don't get good gas milage, but what turbo'd car does?". While of course there are some n/a cars out there that get better, they still do very well. The TT does not get the best mileage do to the fact that it is heavier, AWD, and has to have more power to pull the weight around.

[Girly VR-4]

Originally Posted by SL3000gt

I would say for a 17 year old this is definately NOT a good daily driver. Can they be reliable? Yes. However, if you compared them to true reliable sportier cars, they are not. Most every single person I know with one has had a fair amount of problems or at least a few. And when things do break they are not cheap and sometimes not easy to find. TT's are not especially great on gas mileage either.

I have to disagree here. I bought my first Vr4, a 95, just after I turned 18. It was probably the best purchase I've ever made. If you take the time to learn about the car, learn how to fix it, and learn how to maintain it, it's not as expensive to own as you might think. If you're paying a joe-shmoe mechanics shop to do the work, you'll be paying out your ears, and if you find a reputable local shop, it's not too bad.

The best advice I can give you, spend the extra money for a car you KNOW is well cared for and problem free... from someone who is obsessed with their car and the quality of their car, and learn how to do the basic stuff yourself. Get someone local from 3si to help you out, that's how I learned how to work on my car myself. Ownership will be enjoyable, and you'll REALLY appreciate your car, when you've done the work and fixed it yourself