Performance upgrades

[david-b]

Originally Posted by rickyrickster25

Just to give the 420A a little more pride, i took down my friends Dodge Stratus the other day which is pushing over 200 hp, plus he has a chip and a CAI, he has over 60hp on me and i took him down by almost a car length...

Chip? No chips. That means nothing. He has an ebay resister that does nothing.

Stratus (last I checked) has the same amount of hp that our cars do. Same motors. Unless we're talking different years here?

[gthompson97]

You can get chips for just about any car, and not just those ebay junk ones. But for the price of them, they're not worth it unless the car literally has no aftermarket mods.

[rickyrickster25]

Originally Posted by david-b

Chip? No chips. That means nothing. He has an ebay resister that does nothing.

Stratus (last I checked) has the same amount of hp that our cars do. Same motors. Unless we're talking different years here?

Yea, you are right i checked on the chip, sure enough, EBAY! lol He has an 00 or 01 ill have to get back to you, but he has the v6, im pretty sure its the same V6 engine as the 3G's had... anyways, my GA GT was around 180-200hp and we stayed neck and neck untill the end, so im guessing we were somewhat close in HP, but his top end killed me everytime... but i got him finally, lol

[rickyrickster25]

Originally Posted by gthompson97

You can get chips for just about any car, and not just those ebay junk ones. But for the price of them, they're not worth it unless the car literally has no aftermarket mods.

Dont the chips just override the air vs. fuel ratio?

[SilvrEclipse]

Real "chips" alter air/fuel maps, ignition timing, boost pressure, and possible a few other things.

The cheap ebay resisters just trick the motor into thinking its getting colder air thus dumping more fuel into the motor. Which will make you run rich and end up loosing power.

[UnderEstimate Me]

Haha I didnt even see your sig. Classic.

[SilvrEclipse]

^^?? Whats this about..

[MazdaX]

Originally Posted by UnderEstimate Me

Haha I didnt even see your sig. Classic.

Speaking of his sig..i have over 160 Hp from 'bolt ons'. My RS builder is faster than quite a few cars in fact on the road and accelerates much faster than V-8 F-bodies now with the custom built transmission.

It's easy to get 20 HP out of a 4 banger with bolt ons , a good exhaust package , from head back will provide up in the 10 - 15+ range , cold air good for a few , light weight flywheel will release ate power from rotating mass , higher spark will provide a cleaner combustion allowing the motor to free use the power available , a TB spacer car offer 1 or 2 , not even to mention the ported intake , royal purple oil , aluminum pulleys , and everything else ive forgotten without getting 'inside' the motor. Don't knock the 420 A if you dont know anything about it.



As far as ebay resistor mods for the MAF , don't do it..usually lose fuel effecieny , burn o2's out faster , will cause CEL's to randomly go off and won't pass emissions not to mention there is a possibility of it backfiring in such a manner it ruins cats , permanently screws the ECU , premature failre of MAF , bad idea all around..I don't see why those are even on ebay anymore as everyone has learned by now they suck :/

[MazdaX]

Originally Posted by SilvrEclipse

^^?? Whats this about..

another person with a neon hatin on eclipse.

[SilvrEclipse]

O I got you, I didn't even realize that he was the person you quoted for your sig.

[UnderEstimate Me]

Originally Posted by MazdaX

another person with a neon hatin on eclipse.

Oh excuse me Mr. " I have a neon engine in my car, but in this overweight eclipse body its cool"

Ive owned three turbo dsms, and still currently have my awd laser. Dont think Im coming over here to troll on your ass.

If you can provide a dyno chart of an eclipse with 160fwhp that is powered only by bolt-ons then I will shut up. I dont want any of that ricer math, exhaust 10hp + Intake 7hp + etc kind of bullshit.

To all the people talking about crank horsepower, what kind of good does that do? Hey guys, my engine makes this much power, except when its bolted into my car

I can see where we were lost in translation and for that I apologize. Does anyone have a stock dyno of the 420a in terms of cwhp? If so, then I might believe claims of 160 in that respect.

[Thor06]

Well, depending on whether you count a turbo kit as a bolt on, SilvrEclipse has made over 160whp, he posted his dyno charts a while ago in the main forum.

Why are we even argueing over something as pretty as what little power a 420a can make? Lets all just crack a beer and calm down a bit.

UnderEstimate Me, hows that Laser doin?

[UnderEstimate Me]

No, I dont really consider a turbo really a bolt-on. Like I said, I can see where there was a misunderstanding with the whole thing.

The lasers good, Ive pretty much reached the limited potential of the stock smic running with my 16g, so now Im in the market for a semi affordable fmic.

Again, sorry people. I didnt mean to step on any toes here.

[SilvrEclipse]

I assure you people have hit over 160whp without going inside the motor, search 2gnt if you dont believe me.

I think a turbo should count as bolt on performance.

[bleedEGLblue]

Why not it does "bolt on" lol...i love reading the tension :-)