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Old 03-03-2003, 02:28 PM
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AWD makes a HUUGGGE difference, I know of a 1000Hp supra on street tyres doing 9's but the wheels spin the whole way.
In an Australian magazine they did a comparo between a Commodore GTS which has the GEN3 5.7L V8 engine and an R34 GTR. The GTR had 279RWKW and the GTS had 290RWKW and they both weigh around the same and the GTR would beat it every time. Even from a rolling start.
There is also a 1400HP GTR that does 7.6sec 1/4 miles, can anyone say H.....K.....S?
I would say a GTR would beat the Supra simply because of ATESSA, but supras engine is better and stronger.
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Old 08-14-2003, 11:14 AM
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Quote:
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you can make a supra handle just as good as a skyline. there's amazing suspensions out there...

if you wanna get tech on the handling, the supras in jgtc have been beating the skylines, so what does that say?

outhandles it, right?

if you take it to extremes like that... yeah.

the skyline is not god however. sorry.



the skylines in the jgtc should not be considered in this comparo. why you ask? they are only 2wd because of the R32 winning 18 out of 18 races in its debut year with AWD and HICAS 4 wheel steering. plus the supras in the jgtc are running 3sgtes (yes 4 cyliners.) putting a lot of the weight more towards the center unlike the skylines using inline 6s. but now that the skylines are using the V6s they are winning a lot more races.
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Old 10-05-2003, 06:56 AM
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Re: which one would win a supra tt at 1300 hp vs a skyline gtr 34 at 1300hp.

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Originally Posted by 88sedan_civic
i'm with the supra all the way..

I RECKON BOTH CARS WOULD LOOSE TO A PUSH BIKE, EVEN IF THE PUSH BIKE HAD A FLAT TIRES IT WOULD WIN HANDS DOWN.
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Old 10-09-2003, 04:15 AM
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SUPRA of course,,, love ur own! LOL
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Old 11-08-2003, 06:11 PM
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well this dosnt help but I was at the drags the other night
two RZ supras slightly modded with drag slicks 12sec passes
skyline drag car with RB30DET 10's

the skyline was runing only rwd using drag slicks, used to have a RB25det (92 GTR)

somethen else to look at... (this car has now done a 8.55sec)
http://www.croydons.co.nz/godzilla.htm
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Old 11-26-2003, 03:04 AM
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the supra would trash the skyline supras handle better and r faster.but for u that r confused about the hp i have seen 1500hp out of a skyline and 1300hp out of a street legal supra
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Old 12-03-2003, 08:36 PM
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Well my 2cents are the supra... Think about it. the skyline is normally a rwd until the car detects slip then it begins the give just enough power to the front tires so that the rear tires grip. so if both cars have slicks on, the skylines awd would be more of a downfall than a benefit. the drivetrain after the first 20ft will just be a drag on the motor. diminishing hp and tq by just a lil bit. but the supra has no such loss. so it actually would produce slightly more power pushng it faster to make up for the loss off the line. this is why 1000+hp supras and skylines run damn near the same ET's. this is also the reason that the supra has a better top end. along with slightly longer gears the engine doesnt have anything holding it back. once the skyline is off the line the awd factor is useless.

Second of all to support my prediction is, there is a Best Motoring video showing i believe the Rx-7, Supra a skyline r-34 and two other cars i can't really remember. Well this video was an actual track including turns and straight through's,and believe it or not the supra did infact come in first, followed by the skyline. Its available at racingflix.com, just gotta look for it that's all.

Also the Veilside supra vs the veliside skyline, the supra did win that too, in which it was a 1km stretch.

And for the people who posted previously who claimed that the 2jz can't handle 1300hp? if thats so well i have a 1200-1220 approximate rwhp dyno chart for you, which easily pushes 1400+ at the crank.. sooo yea thats my 2cents!.. in the end both amazing cars, and i dont look at it as competition between the two, as long as they both rape american muscle im happy!! in which they do all the time!
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Old 12-03-2003, 09:11 PM
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Uggg... these posts are a waste of bandwidth, arguing over cars you'll never have or drive and probably never even see in real life. Any engine, within reason, can handle that amount of HP, it's just how long it will hande it before it explodes, pointless IMO if you have 1000+RWHP but have to rebuild the engine after every few runs. By the way, about the best motoring video, the only reason the GTR lost is because he spun out the S15 and had to stop, Supra was 3rd at the time.
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Old 12-04-2003, 01:36 PM
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O.K.... well to the response to the person above.

1) your actually wrong, the video YOU are talking about is "JDM SuperCar Battle
Tuned Supra, R-34 GT-R, Rx-7, and Silvia in a 5-lap road race", yea which the driver in the skyline did rear end the Silvia. But thats not the video im talkign about, this video I am talking about is "Battle in Tsukuba
MR2 GTS, Supra, Rx-7, Skyline GT-R V-Spec, NSX, NSX-T, and a Porsche 911 battle it out on a road-race track." in which the supra did beat the skyline fair and square, not hitting, no burn outs. So maybe you need to check that out before you post.

2) As a person with "supra" in your name im suprised you put down that load of crap of "being rebuilt after a few runs" maybe you should look at
"http://www.racingflix.com/featuredride.asp" and see taht this mkIV supra is running 980RWHP on a completely stock block, go check it out for yourself, its a matter of time before he breaks the 1000rwhp mark.You dont see him re building it everytime he does runs do u? this is a street legal everyday car. Not to mention you shoudl know Supras can run tons of hp on a stock block just fine with out rebuilding.

Oh and just for the record, a dude down the street from me has a single T66 turbo running 600rwhp in a quicksilver supra. So i have infact SEEN a supra and drove one too.
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Old 12-07-2003, 12:59 AM
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first off whoever ae86turbo is, i honestly laughed at your reply at the question, you can barley type, now what would make me think you know the slightest bit of anything about cars, no the skyline is not a lot lighter its actualy about that weight of a supra, the supra is geared too long to catch back up to speed after the skyline rapped it on the take off, but on top speed the supra would have it. o, and ae86turbo, please dont post anymore messages on here again unless its something you know about.
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Old 12-10-2003, 08:28 PM
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"Wow.. you sure showed me "Tsukuba Battle" has a 350Z and a bunch of
other stock peices of crap, although it does have a R34 in it which comes in
first although it was just a camera car. I can also gauruntee that the "980hp"
supra is not running that number daily like you say, especially on a stock
block. Yes MKIV's can run "tons of hp on a stock block just fine with out
rebuilding", tons of HP is subjective and a crapilly tuned engine isn't going to
last long. It's no load of crap, most all highly competitive drag racers rebuild
the engines after every few runs, from Supras, to top fuel, to custom blocked
honduhs. Just for the record i honestly don't give a shit about that guy down
the street, my comment was directed towward a "1300hp Supra and a 1300HP
skyline". I'm done wasting my breath, have a nice life."

Ok here we have a typical retarded n00b at its best. First of all if you didnt "give a shit" about the supra down the street that i last said, why the fuk did u say in ur previous statement "arguing over cars you'll never have or drive and probably never even see in real life". Like if you didnt care why the hell did u say that bullshit? cuz ur a retarded moron who doesnt think before he posts?... probably... also why the hell would u criticize the 980rwhp supra, what makes u think u know its not running stock cuz u think u know all the knowledge? i bet u haven't even completed grade 12 physics. Ur dumb ass is saying stupid things like "its not running stock", look moron, check out his video, check out his actual photo graphs, check out half the shit he actually has to say. The engine is a stock block, along with many other supra engines out there that can pull that shit aswell. To conclude, straight up, ur a retard! . End of discussion.
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Old 12-10-2003, 08:53 PM
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Cute.. just cute, see, if you "thought before you posted" you would have seen that I deleted the post because I was being the bigger man and backing off, instead of continuing the flame fest like your doing . I don't see how mounting personal attacks against me and calling me names will solve anything. I chose to stay here and help new owners with there problems, once in a while i have a keyboard warrior like yourself come around acting hatefull towards me. Trying to disprove everything I say because why, why is it that all 3 of your posts are trying to flame me? Get over yourself, if your so much more knowledable than I am then why don't you build a 980hp MKIV, instead of copying my post into WORD for almost a week while you think of your best comback.
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Old 12-10-2003, 08:59 PM
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ok there cool guy!!!

1) never say cute especially on a automotive forum... (it makes u look gay)

2) by using ur DIRECT words, better supports what im saying, by showing what ur saying is complete bullshit.. now dont get me wrong i respect peoples opinions, i really do... provided they have some sort of logical background behind it with support. You just THINK what u want, cuz it probably satisfies urself... welllll maybe that'll do it for you, but it doesnt prove wat ur saying is right.

Also keyboard warrier? haha buddy im at school everyday, i havent been on here foR a good 4 days... today is the first time..

Why dont i build a 2jz? Well for 1 im a student at the unviersity full time.. so unfortunately no time.. but when i get out, ill be sure TO do it thank you very much
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Old 12-14-2003, 02:44 AM
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lol its sooo funny reading this, but i got the answers for u all! skylines-shit, supras-crap. i've driven a supra many times before but a couple weeks ago i got the new bmw 5 series 535i, omfg i love the car it looks great, its fast, comfortable and u can use it as an every day car, who ever sayd using supra for an every day car is a total moron, their insides are shit and with all this useless horsepower the car will die in a couple months plus y need 1000hp and go 220 mph? when u can only do 70 on the freeway.
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Old 12-14-2003, 02:45 AM
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Re: which one would win a supra tt at 1300 hp vs a skyline gtr 34 at 1300hp.

f***ing teenagers
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