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[Kaneto]

Main Entry: sports car
Function: noun
Date: 1928
: a low small usually 2-passenger automobile designed for quick response, easy maneuverability, and high-speed driving

from www.m-w.com


Realistically the definition of what makes a sports car is too open to opinion.

[Polygon]

To me a sports car is something that can do 13s or lower in the 1/4 mile, is better as a two seater car, or it is uncomfortable in the back seats, can go at least 160 MPH, has to look like it is going fast standing still, has more than 250HP and has to have a descent amount of torque unlike the NSXs crappy 200 ft/lbs, it has to handle like it is on rails, it has stop pretty damn quick as well with little to no fading.

I am talking about stock here as well. Any car can be made into a sports car with a given amount of time and money, some are just a waste though.

That is a sports car to me, if you are honestly going to debate my statement that Honda makes a true sports cars, then I don't know which one you are talking about, sure some of their cars are "sporty" but they are by no means sports cars.

[Polygon]

Originally posted by Kaneto
Main Entry: sports car
Function: noun
Date: 1928
: a low small usually 2-passenger automobile designed for quick response, easy maneuverability, and high-speed driving

from www.m-w.com


Realistically the definition of what makes a sports car is too open to opinion.

Or that.

[kris]

Originally posted by Polygon
To me a sports car is something that can do 13s or lower in the 1/4 mile, is better as a two seater car, or it is uncomfortable in the back seats, can go at least 160 MPH, has to look like it is going fast standing still, has more than 250HP and has to have a descent amount of torque unlike the NSXs crappy 200 ft/lbs, it has to handle like it is on rails, it has stop pretty damn quick as well with little to no fading.

I am talking about stock here as well. Any car can be made into a sports car with a given amount of time and money, some are just a waste though.

That is a sports car to me, if you are honestly going to debate my statement that Honda makes a true sports cars, then I don't know which one you are talking about, sure some of their cars are "sporty" but they are by no means sports cars.

Nice opinion.

[kris]

Also, nothing a owner spends his/her money on, is a waste to that person. So for you to repeatedly say it is a waste, is pretty sad.

Myself, I cant think of why anyone wants to even change the way a LeBaron runs. Seems like it should be left for the grandma next door. I have a few other opinions of them, but I keep them to myself. But I would never say anything of the sorts.

[Polygon]

Now did I detect a hint of sarcasm, or was that sincere?

You know, if you feel that the LeBaron is waste of time and money then so be it, I don't mind; go ahead and say it if you please. For the most part, I would agree with you. Mine was one of 94 I think that were worth putting any money into, they have a lot of potential. Stock they could waste over 80% of the cars on the road, and for very little money could be made to go a lot faster, hell the GTC were raced in GT races. That is why they were the GTC, Grand Touring Coupe.

[hybridsol]

Originally posted by Polygon


That is a sports car to me, if you are honestly going to debate my statement that Honda makes a true sports cars, then I don't know which one you are talking about, sure some of their cars are "sporty" but they are by no means sports cars.

type s prelude h22a 220 hp, Integra type R b18c5 japspec 197 hp, RSX k20c 220 hp, civic si b16a b16a2 a3 and so on 158-170, integra gsr b18c sir 178 hp, and lets not forget the NSX 290 hp stock. there are many more. but it is a matter of opinion.

[Polygon]

You didn't qoute the rest of my post, which I might remind you was simply my opinion. You aren't going to convince me with any of those numbers, I said at least 250HP and a descent amount of torque, and the NSX only has 200, so it does not fall on my list of sports cars.

[Cbass]

Originally posted by 1989CivicSi
cbass- you are probably just pissed off b/c a honda beat you and you dont think that is possible

the new si's are pretty quick, they still weigh light and they have a bigger engine with the all new "i-vtec". I admit, i am not a fan on how they look at all. To me i think they look like a small mini mini van lol

Dude, I burn hondas in an old rusty minivan... you should see the look on a ricers faces as the Aerostar slowly pulls away... I'm tempted to put a big vtec badge on the back hatch.

Not to say that everyone who drives a honda is a ricer, just many in my town

Anyhow, I humbly point out that a Mazda 626 3 valve turbo has more potential with the stock components than a civic. If you're willing to drop thousands to build an engine for a FWD car, go ahead... I'll be happy getting 400hp/500lbft out of one of those ridiculous, inefficient dinosaur V8s for $1500, and then putting it in a light RWD sports car... RX7 anyone?

[hybridsol]

Originally posted by Polygon
You didn't qoute the rest of my post, which I might remind you was simply my opinion. You aren't going to convince me with any of those numbers, I said at least 250HP and a descent amount of torque, and the NSX only has 200, so it does not fall on my list of sports cars.

the NSX has 290hp look it up, the rsx type s has 220 are you reffering to that?

[TatII]

Originally posted by Polygon
To me a sports car is something that can do 13s or lower in the 1/4 mile, is better as a two seater car, or it is uncomfortable in the back seats, can go at least 160 MPH, has to look like it is going fast standing still, has more than 250HP and has to have a descent amount of torque unlike the NSXs crappy 200 ft/lbs, it has to handle like it is on rails, it has stop pretty damn quick as well with little to no fading.

I am talking about stock here as well. Any car can be made into a sports car with a given amount of time and money, some are just a waste though.

That is a sports car to me, if you are honestly going to debate my statement that Honda makes a true sports cars, then I don't know which one you are talking about, sure some of their cars are "sporty" but they are by no means sports cars.

so does that mean my 240sx is not a sports car? or any of the j spec silvias? in that case that must suck cause that just means i've been lying to myself for all this time. lolz:finger:

[Polygon]

Originally posted by hybridsol

the NSX has 290hp look it up, the rsx type s has 220 are you reffering to that?

Sorry about that, I meant that is only has about 200 ft/lbs of torque, you are right, the NSX does have 290HP.

[Cyprus106]

Not everybody has the money to buy a fucking Skyline.

Gawd, if somebody wants to put the money into a car that they worked hard to buy, LET THEM. quit being assholes about it. Everybody has their own god damned preference. If somebody wants to mod a PT Cruiser, or a Le Baron, Civic, Impala, Boneville, CRX, Prelude, Cavalier... let em. Gawd why does everybody have to be such assholes about shit. Let them do what makes them happy and quit bitching about it. If it's their thing don't fucking give them shit for it. Give 'em a smile and thumbs up and let them go about their happy little way.

OK, lets establish this: Yes, there are always the people that are slower than you. Yes, there are always people that are faster than you. You do not dominate the road. You are not the biggest and the best but when you are, feel free to make fun of everybody you want to. otherwise GET THE FUCK OVER IT.

[hybridsol]

Originally posted by Polygon


Sorry about that, I meant that is only has about 200 ft/lbs of torque, you are right, the NSX does have 290HP.

Horsepower @ rpm 3.2: 290 @ 7100
Bore and Stroke 3.2: 3.66 in. x 3.07 in.
Torque (lb.-ft. @ rpm) 3.2: 224 @ 5500
Redline NSX 3.2: 8000 rpm

[Polygon]

Originally posted by hybridsol

Horsepower @ rpm 3.2: 290 @ 7100
Bore and Stroke 3.2: 3.66 in. x 3.07 in.
Torque (lb.-ft. @ rpm) 3.2: 224 @ 5500
Redline NSX 3.2: 8000 rpm

Really? Hmm, interesting, what is its top speed?