whats the easiest car to go fast in under $30,000?

[KamilMk]

Originally Posted by SL3000gt

^^ There was someone (I forget where I saw it) who managed to shove a LS7 into a Fiero.

LOL, I think he needed a little more than a push to make that one happen...
Vaseline anyone?

[BlackGT2000]

I didn't see that but I did see somebody put an LS2 into a SKY or the pontiac version. It was a very professional job. It had a plastic air box and everything, looked like it came from the factory that way.

[Gotian]

Straight from a bunch of miata guys who were at the autocross this past weekend was that "the miatas get their asses kicked by the base model solstice, the only miata thathas the ability to hold its own is the MS Miata and the new MX-5, the ones who's chasis is based off the RX-8. But even then you have to be a reaaly good driver to just hang with an average driver in a solstice"

And there is a downside to dropping an LS1 in a miata and that is that you have to spend thousands of dollars on suspension mods to make up for the lack of traction you just now created if you wanna go autocrossing. With that much power you would tear up the LSD so that is a bad idea for autocrossing, which is why when you go to autocrossing events 99.9999999% of the time the miata motors are basically stock and the suspension is upgraded.

Hijack
BTW I will be posting up about the Autocross shortly, im just at work right now and i dont have the time. Im gonna have pics and info and guess what, Musashi competed too! We have individual results but not overall placement so when that comes up we will get to see how well (or poorly) me and musashi really did.

Also on june 2nd & 3rd im going up for the weekend to compete in another autocross with our friend who has an STi, he join us this weekend as well. So yeah, later tonight you will see the post

/hijack

[GForce957]

Originally Posted by BlackGT2000

I didn't see that but I did see somebody put an LS2 into a SKY or the pontiac version. It was a very professional job. It had a plastic air box and everything, looked like it came from the factory that way.

Mallett does a conversion where they put the ls2 into a solstice for 20k.

1/4 12.8 @ 113
0-60 4.4
skidpad 1.02g

Personally I would just buy the gxp and supe it up rather then shelling out 20k for a swap

[nissanfanatic]

Actually, there is a local guy to me in Florida that was running MAYBE 1-2 seconds behind CCW/hoosier C5's with a turbocharged miata.

[vectorspecialist]

they're making a carbon fiber hardtop available to racers in the sky/solstice.

[VR43000GT]

Originally Posted by KiillaKam

LOL, I think he needed a little more than a push to make that one happen...
Vaseline anyone?

Lol, I am drunk so I am just going to say it, you are extremely giddy aren't you killakam. lol, I'm kind of the same way lolz.

[RACER D12]

Now personally I dont really care for any of the cars in question. Just not my thing, but Sky/Solstice replacing the Miata? I highly doubt it and its WAY to soon to tell. The Kappa platform is still new so lets wait and see how things shape up overtime. Also you guys make it sound like Mazda is has stopped making Miatas. All this will do if the sky/soul have the same staying power as the Miata has had (which it seems like they could) is make Mazda step up their game. Dont forget Mazda has been been making the Miata for a very long time now and have faced many a foe and are still are going strong. And I dont think they are quite ready to surrender yet either. And no offense but I'll take Keiichi Tsuchiya's opinions of the cars over some local autoxers. And he didnt seem to have a hard time running almost identical times in both cars. The soul did beat the Miata around the track and he DID like the soul very much but the times were very close and each car had their pros and cons he said.


Besides for the price of a new soul or miata you could buy a used Boxster and clean house

~sorry Porsche Nazi since 05~

[VR43000GT]

I am with you D12, I will be highly surprised if the Solstice/Sky takes over the Miata. I just can not see that happening. The future will tell, but I highly doubt it.

[Gotian]

im not talking about just local autoXers there is a guy who competes nationally with his miata and he is getting rid of it for a cooper S because the miata isnt "a competative vehicle anymore" I was like WTF? selling a miata for a cooper s? I would rather keep the miata, but then he went into the whole costs of racing and stuff saying the cooper S is a more cost effective car and that it is the best competitive car and crap like that, then he went on to say that the miata is too outdated and that even he new ones are still outdated.

[-The Stig-]

Originally Posted by RACER D12

Besides for the price of a new soul or miata you could buy a used Boxster and clean house

~sorry Porsche Nazi since 05~

Minus the fact that Boxters aren't that great to begin with... not for the price anyways. Pay too much for the Porsche name, and for half the Porsche performance.

[vectorspecialist]

ok just to let u know wat ur getting when u pay 45g for a porsche boxster. 250hp, and 240ish tq. mid engine rwd, with a great suspension
this is wat u get from a redline/gxp at 30ish-g 260hp/260tq, a car that has been proven to b quicker in 0-60, quater, and around some tracks than the previously mentioned boxster.
of course u can up the porsche to the S, but then still u only get 295hp and 290tq. o and that costs around 15g more. so lets make this brief shall we:
15g equates to a big amount of mods to a redline/gxp plus then the starting price difference.
like u said u pay 50%name 50%performance with all porsches(72g for 325hp out of a base 911) my stealth can keep up
mazda is going to have to step up its game, i dont even like the design of it, it's nice but to roundish(kinda girly) the sky(i love em) is boxy, edgy, manly, it simply says get the hell out of my way, or i'll move u myself
o and for those that think i hate porsches, trust me i love em with 90% of my heart(other 10 is my stealth) porsche knows wat it's doing, but 45g for a base car is lil much for me, not for only 250hp, i'll go spend 33g and get 300 out of a 350z

[RACER D12]

Originally Posted by -The Stig-

Minus the fact that Boxters aren't that great to begin with... not for the price anyways. Pay too much for the Porsche name, and for half the Porsche performance.

Oh dont be a hater the Boxster is Porsche through and through and in some ways a better Porsche (MR). And now that you can get them for well under 20 they are definitely worth looking at. Its only half the performance because Porsche held it back like they do all their good designs so it dosnt surpass the 911 example 914, 951, 968, Boxster, Cayman. But thats way we have aftermarket right?

But yes its not the best bang for the buck but hey it wouldnt be a porsche if it was

[CivRacer95]

Fuck...you guys are all going down the wrong path...



C...R....X....B18C1......bolt-ons....suspension mods....pocket 15+K. Fuckin amateurs....that simple.

[vectorspecialist]

is there a way to tell him without getting banned that a civic is a suk ass car, and should not have even been mentioned(a civic and crx are basically the same thing) the Si is the only respectable thing Honda has ever done with it.
neways, i hear what ur saying bout the 986/987 that they r going down in value very quickly. wait 1 or 2yrs and a 96 and 97 will b like 15g. in 5yrs. they'll b some highskoolers first car(an average income highskooler).
i think the best porsche for auto-x would b a 951 or 924S only cause they have decent power, a lot of things u can upgrade, and they r quick(much more so than a civic of the same yr)
i just thought about it to, ucould get a ferrari 308gtsi, they are under 30g, most go for 20-25g. 200hp the name and probably a very good suspension.
pontiac feiro wouldnt b the worst of idea's either. a gt had over 200hp i believe, and the stock gearbox is capable of holding the tq and power of a new vette engine. plus u can pick up 5 of em for less than 20g in decent condition(5 if u went into racing seriously and needed parts)