GTR's converted to road-use

[Sami Aaltonen]

So, just have to check this one.
Have I understood this right, that the 016R, which has been informated to me:
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v4..._122_529lo.jpg
Has been converted to road legal and caries no more the FINA livery?

I know, this question might be stupid because every fact tells me this convert, but just have to check this for my self.

The reason why I ask this is that I have photografed this car early 1996 at Helsinki Motor Show. The pics are coming begining of January 2009, I will show them here as soon as I get them back by digital shape.

[Peloton25]

Yes - you are on the right track. Most of what is known of the history of #16R should be found in this thread:

Now this should be exciting - McLaren versus Enzo on 5th Gear...

>8^)
ER

[hurstg01]

Looking forward to seeing those pics Sami

[Sami Aaltonen]

Originally Posted by Peloton25

Yes - you are on the right track. Most of what is known of the history of #16R should be found in this thread:

Now this should be exciting - McLaren versus Enzo on 5th Gear...

>8^)
ER

Oujeah, I have seen this. So the car......this LM is the 016R?!?!?!?!
Just unbelievable!!!!! I can't believe this. The car which I have seen back in 1996 at Helsinki, is the same car on 5th Gears program?! HOH WOH. No I really lost the words.

[Sami Aaltonen]

Originally Posted by hurstg01

Looking forward to seeing those pics Sami

Okey, I'will show them, when I got them back!

[Sami Aaltonen]

BUT I just wondered, the 5th Gear's McLaren F1 LM is not the orginal, one of the 5 made LM's? Am I right or....?

[hurstg01]

The 5th Gear Mclaren was #16R, the FINA GTR car you have seen in Helsinki, but is now converted to the road and made to look like an LM

[Peloton25]

The car on 5th Gear was never an LM - in fact, if you look closely you'll see the GTR logo on the wheels and the windsheild banner. Though never actually calling it an "F1 GTR", at about the 3:30 mark of the video Tiff says something like: "This is a race car that has been converted back for use on the road."

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ER

[Sami Aaltonen]

Okey, finally I start understand this about this all something. So the 5th Gear McLaren F1 is not LM, previously I thought because the Orange color...

But still, It's a really great video clip, the sound everything and I think that Tiff was some kind of heaven when he driven that 016R on the road...
First time when I saw that clip, I had a knock out. The sound, looks outside, inside, everything. This is just.....

But still....I just can't believe; it's the same car that I saw here, midle of nowhere back in 1996!!!!!!
I wish to photograf that car in its livery today, fortunately I think that is almoust unpossible.

[Sami Aaltonen]

Originally Posted by Peloton25

I think one think worthwhile to add to this thread that was not commented on yet is GTR #27R. Frequent participants on this forum know quite well that the conversion to road use on that car is currently just a bit of a dream, but the fact that it has been seen wearing the "CIA 4" plate for so long could certainly lead to confusion with newcomers. So, as of this writing, the car picture below has not been converted, but gets an honorable mention anyway.



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ER

Just reliazed.....
Hmmm it can't be...... Or it can be an accidence that IXO Models has 1/43 scale exactly same kind of GTR on their selection. Even the "register plate" is same!
BUT the model year has been writen to the stand 1996, not 1997.
Quite strange accidence I think, or is it?

I have understood, that race GTR's were only made 1997, not 1996?
Am I right?

Here is the evidence
http://kuva1.kuvablogi.com/iso/img1656777.jpg

But still; it looks great at the glass gabinet, even that the model year is wrong....

[Peloton25]

Sami - GTR #19R was the only longtail GTR assembled in 1996. The rest of them were all completed early on in 1997, including #27R of course, so IXO's year designation would be incorrect if they are referring to that car as a 1996.

Interestingly though - I went back to the description that Cars International have provided for #27R on their website and it states:

"McLaren F1 GTR, chassis number 27R was built for David Morrison, owner of Parabolica Motorsport at the end of 1996 for the 1997 FIA GT Series. It was the last customer car sold of six for the 1997 season, three Gulf cars, two Schnitzer cars and 27R, the Parabolica car."

So that sort of contradicts what it shown on the chassis history poster that is included with "Driving Ambition" but it may explain why IXO has the year as 1996.

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ER

[Sami Aaltonen]

OK! Once again the clear answer!
Thank you very much! So at the end; the right chassis number of IXO's model is 19R or 27R. Depends how you look the history.
Great, thanks really much!

I've red that link, where was that great story of 27R, but didn't remember that link on the morning. But thanks, now I know the story of that scale model!

[Peloton25]

Well I would suggest that IXO's model is designed to be a replica of the current look worn by #27R, with no relation to #19R. I only mentioned #19R because it seems that is the only longtail GTR that McLaren themselves shows to have been completed in 1996.

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ER

[Sami Aaltonen]

Originally Posted by Peloton25

Well I would suggest that IXO's model is designed to be a replica of the current look worn by #27R, with no relation to #19R. I only mentioned #19R because it seems that is the only longtail GTR that McLaren themselves shows to have been completed in 1996.

>8^)
ER

Yep, It could be really like that. Anyway, mainthing is that the real car is exist. And the model is desinged to a real car.opcorn:

[Le Man]

27R,s build completion was 7th March 97 painted in "Ferrari yellow" (bet Ron was not too pleased with that )

Note;- Chassis 028 uses the central monocoque first plated as 027. Which was damaged in shakedown and subsequently repaired and badged 028, as a spare chassis.


19R,s Completion date was 18th Nov 96..... No more GTR,s were completed in 96.