GTI, tc, or Tiburon

[BP2K2Max]

Originally Posted by Mad_Maxima

actually, wait for the Volkswagen Thunder Bunny. 2.5L 5 turbo making 225 HP

http://www.speedsportlife.com/2006/1...thunder-bunny/

man, i don't care how quick it is or how cool it may look i am not driving something called a "Thunder Bunny".

[Polygon]

I would go with the Mazda Speed3 and then my second pick would be the GTI. I wouldn't bother with the tC or the Tib.

[Gotian]

Originally Posted by Polygon

I would go with the Mazda Speed3 and then my second pick would be the GTI. I wouldn't bother with the tC or the Tib.

Im with polygon on that, the mazdaspeed 3 is cheaper thana GTI and that is with the GT packaging not to mention you have a better warrenty than VW and more reliability in the long run. And I like the turbo set up in the speed 3, I'm thinking of finding one and bolting off that turbo to slap it on my jetta cause it's my upgraded turbo, the Ko4.

But both are fwd, both turbo stock, the speed with all options is the price of a base GTI, the speed has more power, though for an extra 500 you get more power out of the GTI but that is an extra 500 that you dont need to spend in the speed 3. I would definately take a speed 3. I'm actually thinking about trading in the jetta, after paying back a friend, and getting the speed 3 for my fiance.

[TheStang00]

yep, the mazdaspeed3 wasnt in the original question. but if that was an option id definatly take that too.

[G-man422]

Originally Posted by Mad_Maxima

actually, wait for the Volkswagen Thunder Bunny. 2.5L 5 turbo making 225 HP

http://www.speedsportlife.com/2006/1...thunder-bunny/

Thunder Bunny, lol.

[bmx419gt]

Yea, I think I probably get the Speed3. I also read an article in 'Motor Trend' I think it was, comparing that and the new WRX TR. The 3 won every event except the 1/4mile or the 0-60 i think. So yea I'm sticking with the Speed3 I think.

[Gotian]

Originally Posted by bmx419gt

Yea, I think I probably get the Speed3. I also read an article in 'Motor Trend' I think it was, comparing that and the new WRX TR. The 3 won every event except the 1/4mile or the 0-60 i think. So yea I'm sticking with the Speed3 I think.

it lost in 1/4 and 0-60 cause the wrx has more launching capabilities, but the speed 3 beat it out on the course which is very impressive.

[TheStang00]

Originally Posted by bmx419gt

Yea, I think I probably get the Speed3. I also read an article in 'Motor Trend' I think it was, comparing that and the new WRX TR. The 3 won every event except the 1/4mile or the 0-60 i think. So yea I'm sticking with the Speed3 I think.

wise choice my friend. i really think it is. its not a very expensive car either which is nice. you can get all the options you want and probably still cost less than a WRX.

[drftk1d]

Originally Posted by Gotian

Im with polygon on that, the mazdaspeed 3 is cheaper thana GTI and that is with the GT packaging not to mention you have a better warrenty than VW and more reliability in the long run. And I like the turbo set up in the speed 3, I'm thinking of finding one and bolting off that turbo to slap it on my jetta cause it's my upgraded turbo, the Ko4.

how do you know the speed 3 has better "reliability" than the VW, especially since the car just came out?

[Gotian]

Originally Posted by drftk1d

how do you know the speed 3 has better "reliability" than the VW, especially since the car just came out?

cause volkswagon isnt the best when it comes to reliability and most of the speed 3 has been out for about a year now.

[Underground_Killah]

get the tiburon.. be origional...

seriously the tiburon is solid and has a great warranty. it's got some zip and has a growing aftermarket if you want to make it custom.

VW is past it's prime imo
Mazda 's nice but bad warranty
and the tc is a great car, but the warranty is sub - par

[Right_LiRrr]

I'd go for the Golf GTI. European refinement will always be better to deal with on an everyday basis.

[liquid_d00]

the GTI doesnt come with alot of power stock. still more than the tc or the tib. but the GTI is soooo tunible. easy upgrade to the ecu and you have yourself a low 14 sec car! I would go with the GTI for sure.

[Gotian]

Originally Posted by liquid_d00

the GTI doesnt come with alot of power stock. still more than the tc or the tib. but the GTI is soooo tunible. easy upgrade to the ecu and you have yourself a low 14 sec car! I would go with the GTI for sure.

yeah, it is very tunable, but so is every turbocharged car. and also why buy a car that can run you close to 28k with the same options of a car that will run you about 25k max and the 25k car will be faster.

So I ask again, why buy a more expensive car that is slower? the GTI will NOT run low 14's after spending an extra 500 to upgrade the ecu while the mazdaspeed 3 will just run low 14's out of the box and with slight gearing adjustments, through ecu tuning, and a flywheel (which is already available) im sure it will run mid 13's, crank up the boost to 20pounds and now your talking low 13's with no lag. And even after doing that to the Mazdaspeed 3 it would still be less than the GTI. Everything that can be done to improve on a GTI can be done to a mazdaspeed 3, FMIC, CAI, turbo back exhaust, fuel injectors, FPR, I could go on and on.

Also even if you swapped the GTI turbo from a Ko3s to a Ko4 (which is the same turbo as the speed3 ) by using the turbo kit, you only get 240hp and you barely break into the low 14's maybe even hit a 13.9 to make this shorter it would cost you too much to equal the power of a mazdaspeed 3 in a GTI.

[Mad_Maxima]

Just get a 2004 R32, everything you want out of the GTI, plus AWD