Cruising with a Mac

[Chiquae07]

Originally Posted by TheStang00

but, does it work on a mac? thats the question.


the other thing you can do with a laptop is just buy an ibm laptop cause they are the shit. they have this little red mouse thing in teh middle and when you push the middle mouse button you can scroll with it too. its the shit. IBM FTW!

actually the arrow keys do work to do down....i am typing this on the ibook as i type. i thought id go on my moms laptop and see y i ahted it again. now i kno. and for god sakes it needs more ram.......damn thing cant have itunes, IE, and Mail all open at once. i still say she shoulda bought a ibm, hp, or toshiba laptop.

[CBFryman]

Originally Posted by -The Stig-

That's when you bust out the #2 pencil and some post-em notes.

And give your teachers the big fuck you.

x2

my physics teacher said it would be a good idea to have at least a TI-83 and if we are planning on taking (or are currently taking) AP Calculus that it would be best to buy a TI-89... He also said it would be a good idea to take notes.

I passed with the 2nd highest grade (i lost to an asian girl who didnt get valadictorian because she took honors physics and the validictorian took an AP class so his straight A GPA got weighted justa tad higher) with a $12 Casio calculator and my notes consisted of a scrap of paper about the size of a 3x5 note card for formulas.

[TheStang00]

Originally Posted by CBFryman

x2

my physics teacher said it would be a good idea to have at least a TI-83 and if we are planning on taking (or are currently taking) AP Calculus that it would be best to buy a TI-89... He also said it would be a good idea to take notes.

I passed with the 2nd highest grade (i lost to an asian girl who didnt get valadictorian because she took honors physics and the validictorian took an AP class so his straight A GPA got weighted justa tad higher) with a $12 Casio calculator and my notes consisted of a scrap of paper about the size of a 3x5 note card for formulas.

right on, thats the way to do it. theres nothing better for you than actually learning what the hell is going on in the equations rather than just knowing what buttons to push on a calculator. i applaude you.

cassiesman, just get an ibm instead of a toshiba. the mouse pointer on here is way more convenient than the pad, i mean its not even close in comparison. and it has air bags

[CassiesMan]

I'm not gonna get either, I don't need a lap top till I'm in law school (which is actually only about a year away...), and even then, I dunno. I was told in a computer class I took that four months after a computer is purchased, becuase of the advances we are making, it is obsolete. So that would make my PC...obsolete times three or four.

[TheStang00]

yeah computers become obsolete very quickly, but it really doesnt matter that much. i mean if you buy a top of the line computer your going to be able to run any program that comes out for atleast a couple years.

[Chiquae07]

meeh. i built this computer that i am on about 4 years ago. the only thing ive upgraded was the graphics card, ram, and grabbed another hard drive. i am on my really old amd processor overclocked at 2.8....so i guess im good for now. just need to battle the heat. ive honestly thought of buyin a small fridge, and placing the computer in it.

[-The Stig-]

^ lol, that's not a bad idea... store your cold drinks and cpu components.

Not only that, it's a dust free environment.

[Chiquae07]

1 problem that came to mind. condensation. idk how the mini fridges work to keep cold. i know that they dont run on just air. there has to be something. i'll probobly try it in the mac that really sux, but works to see if my plan will work. then maybe patent it and sell.

[-The Stig-]

Just have to worry about energy consumption, running a 'fridge' and a high powered cpu would use a lot of energy.

One way to get around that is to peel the Energy Star sticker off an old monitor and slap it on... bam... it's energy wise now.

[Neutrino]

I really cannot stand macs due to their vertical market system caused by vendor lock in. Also right now many mac programs such as Photoshop run very very slow on the new macinteltoshes due to the fact they run on the rosetta emulation layer. One nice thing though is the sudo system that controls the user priviledges they imported from the *nix world. i use the same system on my Ubuntu boxes and its very useful, better IMo than the regular su.


Chiquae07 those small fridges work by sing a peltier system. Also using a fridge as a cooling syetm would eb a very very ideea due to condesation as you said. Thr proper way to do it is using something like a vapochill system, it will only cool your core directly and they oftem come with heating elements to keep your surounding pins and pcb warm.

And then you run into other OC problems, for example most CPUs have their multiplier locked so you have to increase the FSB or use a muiltiplier. increasing the FSb leads to stressed memory, chipset etc. The extra voltage often applied to the CPU can lead to overheating MOSFETs which when you use something like watter or cryocooling don't receive the airflow needed for cooling unless you add extrans fans. Anyway all this often leads to major spending sprees which would've been better spend on upgraded components.

[-The Stig-]

The Guru has spoken, all heed his words... or tempt fate and piss him off by buying a Mac and boasting about it.


"omg.. they come in so many colors!!! I got orange!!!!"

[CBFryman]

^lmao^

right on, thats the way to do it. theres nothing better for you than actually learning what the hell is going on in the equations rather than just knowing what buttons to push on a calculator. i applaude you.

Thanks. I actually turned out to like physics almost as much as chemistry which probably helped a lot. To anyone who is having problems in school, just make yourself interested in the classes, you WILL get better grades. If only i could do that in honors english 3.215 unweighted GPA FTL

CPU cooling? though i wouldnt think you would need it on a 2.8 Pentium 4 (im geussing that is what you have) they to make water cooling systems. Basically have an exterior resivior and it works like a radiator or a liquid intercooler.

You may also want to bust open the case and clean all of the dust off of the heat sink and get a larger fan or a larger heat sink and fan. You could also try putting new/more thermal greese on the contact patch.

[Neutrino]

Originally Posted by CBFryman

CPU cooling? though i wouldnt think you would need it on a 2.8 Pentium 4 (im geussing that is what you have) they to make water cooling systems. Basically have an exterior resivior and it works like a radiator or a liquid intercooler.

You may also want to bust open the case and clean all of the dust off of the heat sink and get a larger fan or a larger heat sink and fan. You could also try putting new/more thermal greese on the contact patch.

he was considering a more extreme form of cooling due to his OC. A 2.8 is quite a bit for an old AMD that he mentions he has. Its probably a throroughbred or barton core (doubt he could get a palomino that high without some exotic cooling)

Water cooling is more of a fad right now than necessary. Yes in theory should be far superior to air cooling however most kits on the market are poorly integrated and often surpased by top notch air cooling sytems such as the CPNS 9500/scyte ninja/thermaright si120. Only a top quality (read expensive) watter cooling is worth the money and it would be better to spend that on upgrades anyway. Plus water cooling has many disadvatages: pain to install, need maintenance often, nonconductive low viscosity liquids are expensive, they don't cool mosfets etc...

That doesn't mean dorks like me don't use sometimes water cooling, but we do it more for the "cool" factor than anything else.

Also you certainly do never put more thermal grease. You always remove the old one fully then procced to apply a very very thin and small layer of thermal grease, its a very common mistake to think more is better (funny enough some of the new macbooks were found to be overheating due to apple instruction to aply a full syringe of paste to the cpu). Otherwise you end up creating more thermal resistance.

[CBFryman]

you dont have to tell me about thermal paste. However ive seen older CPU's have a little dot...not even covering the entire contact patch. entire contact patch > little dot.

as far as watercooling, its a last resort thing IMHO. Like you said, a good copper/aluminum sink with good airflow should be adiquite.

[Neutrino]

Originally Posted by CBFryman

you dont have to tell me about thermal paste. However ive seen older CPU's have a little dot...not even covering the entire contact patch. entire contact patch > little dot.

Are you refering to little square thing in the middle of the cpu packaging? If yes that is the cpu core and its the only part that needs to contact the heatsink. It also requires only a small "grain of rice" sized thermal paste. The rest of the cpu must not have any thermal paste touching it since some versions of it are electrically conductive.


Same goes for theCPUs with a built in heat spreader and a much bigger contact patch. still all you need is a small "grain of rice" dab of paste right above the core.

CPU with a large metal heat spreader, put a small amount of Arctic Silver onto the center of the heat spreader as shown in the photo.

Only a small amount of Arctic Silver is needed

P4- About the size of an uncooked grain of short-grain white rice or 1/2 of a BB.

Athlon64- About the size of one and a half uncooked grains of short-grain white rice or 3/4 of a BB.