Transfer case recall !!

[Blackcrow64]

Originally Posted by Fallenfantasies

I got the 23 spline tcase sitting in my garage i come up off it for maybe like 30 or 40 dollars, or a nice trade. I swapped a a 1g trans into my 95 whenever it went out at like 185,000. Let me know bra, its in perfect condition and i just had to buy on off ebay for like 115. So my deal aint breakin balls.

Are you talkin to me or Killer?

[Killa]

Originally Posted by Blackcrow64

Are you talkin to me or Killer?

I think he is talking to you, cause my dealer already cover for me every thing, BTW all the part already here ( at dealer ) he told me bring back on friday, but I told him, I need the car for weekent, and will bring back on monday, any one here have any ideal, how long it take to replace, u-joint, and all the seal ? Thanks.

[l_eclipse_l]

Originally Posted by Killer7

any one here have any ideal, how long it take to replace, u-joint, and all the seal ?

That would have been a good question to ask the dealer...

[Blackcrow64]

Hmm, well I don't need a freakin new t-case, I am just gonna replace seals on mine. Even if it did go out, I have an extra 23 spline one laying in the garage. You can never have too many spare parts when you own a DSM.

[Killa]

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbul...d.php?t=600944

Just back from dealer, find out that they not only replace for me the seal but they replace, the new transfer case , I drain the old oil out, and it just came out about 3 table spoon of oil , dum bastard, lucky i still have some red line heavy duty shockproof left.

[Killa]

Well after 648 mile on my new T-case, it FUCKING LEAK AGAIN. It leak very tiny fluid on the U-Joint seal. It not leak that bad, like it take 1 month to leak out a table spoon of fluid. If I put my hand on the U-joint seal, I saw a very tiny fluid, Im not worried about it, but in long term I do. I gotta bring back to dealer. Last time they replace for me whole T-Case, but not the U-Joint. I guess this time they gonna replace the U-joint. I call the dealer and they told me bring by tomorrow and they gonna check. I HATE LEAK !!!

[Blackcrow64]

Damn those transfer cases... I still gotta get my seals and shit before I put mine all back together. Oh well, I got lots of time still. lol

[kjewer1]

I'm pretty sure I mentioned above somewhere that the yoke recall has to be done at the same time, or it will damage the new tcase or sleeve. Hopefully all it damaged is the seal, since there is no way they'll give you another tcase.

[Killa]

Originally Posted by kjewer1

I'm pretty sure I mentioned above somewhere that the yoke recall has to be done at the same time, or it will damage the new tcase or sleeve. Hopefully all it damaged is the seal, since there is no way they'll give you another tcase.

Is the U-joint can cause it to leak, cause that the only one they dint replace.

[kjewer1]

The "u-joint" you refer to is called the yoke, and is part of a yoke recall kit that can be bought cheap. The labor is a pain in the ass though, might as well have the dealer do it. And ask them to check the sleeve too, because if the yoke is bad so is your new tcase I'm feeling a little too lazy to type much, but check out my other posts from this thread:

There was a tcase recall on almost all DSMs up through the mid 2g range. My 95 was covered. Getting the dealership to fix it is almost impossible though. Mine actually locked up, when I had the exwife in the car. Luckily for us I was still in first or second gear, not on the highway in front of an 18 wheeler.

The dealer will most likely replace the seal, because it's cheap and easy to do. But by the time the seal leaks, the level has been low for some time, and the yoke/tail housing are damaged. This will provide some play in the joint, and the new seal will crap out again soon. This time when you take it in they will say "go fuck yourself, the recall has already been done," even if you go to a different dealer. You can call Mitsu corporate customer service, but they will say the same thing, the recall has already been done. So in reality you are better off not taking it until it locks up! But this is very dangerous, and not at all recomended.

There is another part to the recall that the dealer never wants to do. It includes a new yoke that has to be installed on the driveshaft. It's a little more work, and they don't like to do it. The only good thing to come from this being added to the warranty is that in an effort to control thier reported financial loss due to the recall, the part is priced at about 32 bucks Includes a new U-joint too IIRC.

To do the job right though you need to also inspect the tcase housing, specifically the sleeve the yoke rides in. If the yoke and the sleeve are damaged, and you replace only one, the other part will destroy the new part. Ask me how I know When I checked on this (4-5 years ago) you could not get the sleeve seperately, so I bought the whole tail housing for about 100 bucks. Even came with a new seal installed

The bottom line is there is a 99% chance the dealer will be completely worthless on this, even though it's a SAFETY recall and could cost you and your passengers and others your lives. You can try to threaten them with contacting the NTSB, who is responsible for enforcing safety recalls, but it's unlikely to help much. I would be prepared to spend the cash and get it done yourself, and don't be cheap, replace all damaged parts so you don't have to do it twice. I put over 100k miles on that tcase after I replaced these parts, at high power levels, with no more trouble. And it had over 100k when I installed it in the car. Probably 225k miles or so on that unit.

Tcase output shaft seal: The common tcase leak, covered by the recall. Cheap and easy to change, which is why the dealer pussies out and does this every time and marks the recall as "done," but the damage the leaking seal caused to the yoke and sleeve is the real problem. New seals will not last if the yoke/sleeve are bad. Replace all three to be done with the job for good.

I couldn't find a part number for the sleeve itself (though I heard it exists and can be changed seperately), and I was in a rush, so I ordered the whole tailshaft housing with new sleeve included. That was about 100 bucks IIRC. It just bolts on to the cast iron main body of the Tcase. The Yoke is a 35 dollar kit that is part of the recall (which is why it's so cheap, used to be more like 80 bucks I hear. Makes the stock holders think they didn't lose as much money for thier fuck up as they really did) and I had my brother change that way back when, so I can't comment on how hard that is to do. Many people do this themselves, but alternatively you could easily drop the driveshaft and have a driveshaft shop do the work for cheap money. The new tailshaft housing also came with a new seal. This is really the best way to fix this problem, if you have sleeve/yoke damage. In my case the damage was pretty easy to see. The parts should obviously be perfectly smooth and free of defects. If yours are fine the bad seal didn't ruin them yet. If the yoke is the cause of the bad seal however, the new seal won't last.

This is why I recomend replacing/updating all three parts at the same time. Do it once, do it right. It is a pretty serious safety issue after all.

[Killa]

What is sleeve ?