Fox body Stangs don't get the respect they deserve

[giddyup50]

Originally Posted by AltecZX2

tell that to al the chevy's w/ ford rear ends

the Escorts w/ mazda motors or trannies (factory)

the Taurus's w/ yamaha motors(factory)

Chevy's with Ford rear ends is fine, Anything with Ford parts is fine. But if it's a Ford...keep it Ford!

As for Ford/Mazda....Ford owns or is joint with Mazda, so that's fine with me. And the SHO's with Yamaha 3.4 v8, cool until the damn thing needs work. As you can see I'm not a purist, I just love Ford products.
But at the same time I kind of agree with Skyline when he says take the best of everything and don't settle for just what's outthere. READ YOUR BIBLE'S GUYS, JESUS WANTED US TO DRIVE FORDS....DIDN'T HE?

[neatofrito1618]

ford makes mazda

[SkylineUSA]

Originally Posted by neatofrito1618

ford makes mazda

Are you sure about that? Or have they had joint ventures?

[AltecZX2]

Originally Posted by giddyup50

Chevy's with Ford rear ends is fine, Anything with Ford parts is fine. But if it's a Ford...keep it Ford!

As for Ford/Mazda....Ford owns or is joint with Mazda, so that's fine with me. And the SHO's with Yamaha 3.4 v8, cool until the damn thing needs work. As you can see I'm not a purist, I just love Ford products.
But at the same time I kind of agree with Skyline when he says take the best of everything and don't settle for just what's outthere. READ YOUR BIBLE'S GUYS, JESUS WANTED US TO DRIVE FORDS....DIDN'T HE?

I was talking the Yamaha v6, but the v8 has isses that require you to weld the cams or else they will break on you and teh v8 was just for trying to take teh Yamaha v6 and redesign it to a v8 (which a majority of SHO owners utterly killed the car as the weight didnt help that new heavy ass car)

Ford Killed the SHO. Ford takes initialy good cars and kills them.

Taurus(SHO), Escort(ZX2), Contour, many hate the new Focus...

Hell for a while the ZX2 out sold the ZX3+ZX5 with NO advertising help, and no dealers promotions...Ford has to stop "inovating" with current cars, because it doesnt have a history of working.

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[daveshapellSVT]

i think they get respect it just depends who its from. obviously chevy and import guys are gonna talk badly cause its just competitive nature to do so. Honestly for the buck theres not a car on the road that has as much after market support or is as easy to make fast. look at any magazine like summit. theres a complete 5 page section just on 5.0 stangs. they get respect you just gotta realize that theres always someone thats uneducated thats gonna spark up an arguement that they were slow and didn't handle good. But at the point where it was produced it was built to compete with cars in its class and those cars had simular characteristics. especially f-bodies of that time. they were making simular power. you can easily say that the performance of cars in that time sucked cause ever since then performance has gone way up, but they lack affordability and aftermarket support.

[giddyup50]

Originally Posted by daveshapellSVT

i think they get respect it just depends who its from. obviously chevy and import guys are gonna talk badly cause its just competitive nature to do so. Honestly for the buck theres not a car on the road that has as much after market support or is as easy to make fast. look at any magazine like summit. theres a complete 5 page section just on 5.0 stangs. they get respect you just gotta realize that theres always someone thats uneducated thats gonna spark up an arguement that they were slow and didn't handle good. But at the point where it was produced it was built to compete with cars in its class and those cars had simular characteristics. especially f-bodies of that time. they were making simular power. you can easily say that the performance of cars in that time sucked cause ever since then performance has gone way up, but they lack affordability and aftermarket support.

Very well put! I agree. But you mention Summit with 5 pages just for 5.0 stangs. But that's mostly for the 5.0 engine, not the 87-93 Fox body. I think most people do respect the 5.0 engine, I just don't think they respect the Fox body. They think it's too boxy, not aero enough, brakes suck (I have to admit that one), suspension sucks, etc....etc... You will especially hear younger kids that have never road in or driven one (like my cousins) say that stuff. Ohwell, that's their loss.

[daveshapellSVT]

i think thats just there way of justifying the money they spend on their cars lol. i mean really ppl have to look at what it is. a car built in the 80's. look at all the other cars around that time. back in that time frame the mustangs were considered good. plus there musta been something good about them cause that chassy was used up until like 2004 with slight changes.

[Elk]

Fox Body doesn't get respect because it’s looks like an old Taurus. If the 3 gen Camaro looked like an 1980's Cavalier it would get dissed just as much as the Fox Body.

[01L2Cobra]

Originally Posted by daveshapellSVT

plus there musta been something good about them cause that chassy was used up until like 2004 with slight changes.

There wasn't anything good about the chassis other than it was cheaper to keep it and make slight changes than to design something new. Let’s take a look at events like road racing since it is very demanding on the chassis. In order for a SN95 or even a foxbody to be competitive the chassis has to be reinforced with a set of subframe connectors. But how extensive do they need to be? Well let’s put it this way a set of KB Extreme matrix is highly recommended even if you are just going to get out there and have some fun a couple times a year.


Without them over time the chassis can twist to the point that the windows and doors do not properly close. In other words it should have disappeared years ago. To quote a friend “Aftermarket performance parts should be added as enhancements and not as requirements to make up for faulty design.”

[daveshapellSVT]

yea you have a point. i've heard a lot of stories and facts about the older fox body not fitting right and i've seen a bunch of 5.0's with doors that sit weird and stuff. my friends dad is a body repair dude and he hates stangs cause he says they fit for shit. maybe it's me but here in rochester theres a huge group of fast stangs that i've grown to respect. they build fast cars for cheap and normally beat everything when we race. this is my opinion, but i think the older styles look meaner mainly because they are so crude. look at old muscle cars they were grunty, bad gased, big motored, poor handling hogs that were just simple as hell. i love it

[dorfboy]

Hey guys, I want to butt in here for a moment. I live near a military base and have seen cars come and go. The Fox body on a Mustang had its excellent rep here for about 5 years and then the soldiers all went to Iraq. Of course as soon s they got back with their large sums of money they bought brand new cars. Poor little Mustangs get sold to like teenagers and they wreck them. I mean you get some snotty nosed little brat with a hyped up motor, loud exhaust, and etc. They think they are the greatest and everyone should watch them and pay attention to them. I mean it is that kind of mentality that is actually driving the Fox bodies down into the ground. I love Mustangs in general, but the Fox body is my favorite. I just hate how people get minor little things done to their cars and think they are the greatest person alive. It drives everything into the ground.

[giddyup50]

Originally Posted by Elk

Fox Body doesn't get respect because it’s looks like an old Taurus. If the 3 gen Camaro looked like an 1980's Cavalier it would get dissed just as much as the Fox Body.

Dude....that stuff you got is pretty good! Give me some! It doesn't look like a Taurus.

[giddyup50]

Originally Posted by dorfboy

Hey guys, I want to butt in here for a moment. I live near a military base and have seen cars come and go. The Fox body on a Mustang had its excellent rep here for about 5 years and then the soldiers all went to Iraq. Of course as soon s they got back with their large sums of money they bought brand new cars. Poor little Mustangs get sold to like teenagers and they wreck them. I mean you get some snotty nosed little brat with a hyped up motor, loud exhaust, and etc. They think they are the greatest and everyone should watch them and pay attention to them. I mean it is that kind of mentality that is actually driving the Fox bodies down into the ground. I love Mustangs in general, but the Fox body is my favorite. I just hate how people get minor little things done to their cars and think they are the greatest person alive. It drives everything into the ground.

That's true of almost any car now. Some punk rents Fast and Furious and he thinks if he uses a satelite dish on his trunk for a spoiler on his Civic, all of a sudden....he has a race car. Oh, don't forget the coffee can for a muffler.

[Elk]

Originally Posted by giddyup50

Dude....that stuff you got is pretty good! Give me some! It doesn't look like a Taurus.

Taurus:


Mustang:


The Fox Body looks like a Taurus just like the GTO looks like a Grand Am. And both don't get the respect they deserve because they look like normal cars.

[TheStang00]

dude it totally depends on what angle your looking and which fox your lookin at. at a certain angle on some they look like escorts too. but most of the time they dont, and the fox can be very mean looking.

i think among real car enthusiasts the fox does get a lot of respect. but among the general public the car just looks old and people dont know about its potential and abilities. and then theres ricers, well it doesnt get respect from them because they are retarded, the only cool things to them are park bench wings on imports.