Drugs/Alcohol Whats ur Fix?

[-Josh-]

Every time you take X you have a 25% chance of dying. Because it messes with the neurons in the back of your brain, it can trigger so many it causes you to go brain dead.

[PBking82]

When people talk about X you aren't really talking about any drug in particular. You're talking about a little bit of MDA mixed with coke/herion/speed/meth/dust/etc... It is whatever the cook decided to put into it. Sp, whatever has the highest concentration in the pill is generally what is gonna fuck you up the most. Seriously you need to have like a degree in pharmacology to understand what goes on with these things. Playing with plain ol' "X" is like playing russian roulette. You may get a really good pill one time and it kicks your ass, but then again you may get a really bad pill and it will make you go crazy/sick or even kill you. The only times i ever dabbeled with the home-made pharmy's was when i knew(AND TRUSTED) the cook and had a full report of what was in it. Seriously guys, if you're gonna play with fire expect to get burned. STAY SAFE! I hate hearing about some kid who OD'd because they didn't know what they were taking. Peace-

[eversio11]

Originally Posted by PBking82

Stay away from X and MDMA!!!!! nasty shit. What I'm looking for(well not really looking) is pure MDA. It is really hard to come by and will fuck you up beyond belief. Basically it is the active ingredient in X but X is cut with so much other crap that I don't dare touch it. I've done it a few times in the past and man it is a mind blowing experiance. Stay safe all. Peace-

Ok.. first of all, MDMA IS ecstasy. And secondly, MDA is a completely different phenethylamine than MDMA.

And what is this 25% chance of dying bullshit? That means 1 out of every 4 people that try ecstasy die? Sounds like drug propaganda, and MDMA doesn't 'fuck with the neurons in the back of your brain'. Jesus christ, how can anyone believe that?

Ecstasy works by triggering abnormally large amounts of dopamine to be activated in the brain. And the only problems with pure MDMA is are acute, and may cause an allergic reaction (very rare) or dehydration. No fucking with your neurons, no 25% chance of dying. All those facts are caused from impurities or not even being MDMA at all. Test your shit, don't be stupid.

So please, don't fucking discuss drug use if you're completely uneducated on the matter and getting your facts from DARE.org.

[TexasF355F1]

I prefer weed to alcohol. But b/c I knew I had to find a job I quit almost 6 months ago (damn has it been that long already!). Would really like to do it again and hopefully Denver is a stepping stone for the decriminalization of at least an .oz of weed. I'm definately making a trip to Amsterdam in the next few years.

For some reason they have random drug tests at my work...an office job. Guess I could get a paper cut or something Yea it's more reason than that. But a lady told me the other day that they've lost quite a few extremely valuable and excellent employees from the random. Doesn't make sense to me at all. If they're not doing anything wrong and are actually doing great, why is it such a big deal in their case?

Anyway, now I just drink. The buzz is nice but it's no where near as nice as some exotic hydro.

[-Josh-]

Originally Posted by eversio11

Ok.. first of all, MDMA IS ecstasy. And secondly, MDA is a completely different phenethylamine than MDMA.

And what is this 25% chance of dying bullshit? That means 1 out of every 4 people that try ecstasy die? Sounds like drug propaganda, and MDMA doesn't 'fuck with the neurons in the back of your brain'. Jesus christ, how can anyone believe that?

Ecstasy works by triggering abnormally large amounts of dopamine to be activated in the brain. And the only problems with pure MDMA is are acute, and may cause an allergic reaction (very rare) or dehydration. No fucking with your neurons, no 25% chance of dying. All those facts are caused from impurities or not even being MDMA at all. Test your shit, don't be stupid.

So please, don't fucking discuss drug use if you're completely uneducated on the matter and getting your facts from DARE.org.

I think i'll believe my Psychology prof. over you...

[eversio11]

Originally Posted by -Josh-

I think i'll believe my Psychology prof. over you...

Ok.. so one person tells you one thing, and another tells you a completely opposite take. So you're just going to blindly accept one end of the spectrum? How about believing yourself, start researching:

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mdma/mdma.shtml

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mdma

[vinnym86]

Originally Posted by PBking82

Stay away from X and MDMA!!!!! nasty shit. What I'm looking for(well not really looking) is pure MDA. It is really hard to come by and will fuck you up beyond belief. Basically it is the active ingredient in X but X is cut with so much other crap that I don't dare touch it. I've done it a few times in the past and man it is a mind blowing experiance. Stay safe all. Peace-

first, X is mdma, ecstacy. Pure MDMA (Molly), can be found, but again, u either call it X, or Molly. If you follow that link, u can see if its cut with anything, or if its pure. ALSO, usually, it ISNT cut with "nasty shit". a lot of times, its cut with caffeine. yes, caffeine pills. So, yes, true, Stay away, but if you own't, atleast research what you're taking in, and make sure you know what its cut with.

EDIT: also, PB, its is almost wholly uncommon to find less MDMA than the cut substance. I have also never seen x cut with angel dust. cut with coke is rare, and stupid. the reason it is cut is to make more money by taking a given amount of substance, mixing it with another cheap substance, and distributing more of the mix. coke is mad expensive, so the only reason ecstacy might be cut with coke is if it was purposely done for those looking for that hard roll. again, its very hard to come by, and most of the time its just cut with caffiene

[vinnym86]

Originally Posted by -Josh-

Every time you take X you have a 25% chance of dying. Because it messes with the neurons in the back of your brain, it can trigger so many it causes you to go brain dead.

i'd like to see where you get that from, josh. If that statistic is referring to deaths caused by ecstacy users dying from irresponsible use (i.e. disregarding what its cut with), than it may hold true. The fact is, MDMA releases a surge of seretonin. This is why ecstacy makes you feel happy. also why its potentially addicting (to those with addictive personalities, not physically addicting). unnatural flow of seretonin is proven to gradually erode away brain cells, which is why E addicts have "holes" in their brains on MRI and CAT scans. But i want to make it clear, that MDMA (the specific chemical) is not going to make a 25% chance of death. The chemicals it is cut with, *might*. at the risk of being repetative, if you do decide to take e pills, please, please, make sure you know what its cut with, and do it responsibly. (don't be an idiot and over dose.)

Originally Posted by eversio11

Ok.. so one person tells you one thing, and another tells you a completely opposite take. So you're just going to blindly accept one end of the spectrum? How about believing yourself, start researching:

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mdma/mdma.shtml

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mdma

eversio is absolutely right. erowid is an exelent site. do your own research and make your own arguments.

[mike1224]

Originally Posted by TexasF355F1

Would really like to do it again and hopefully Denver is a stepping stone for the decriminalization of at least an .oz of weed. I'm definately making a trip to Amsterdam in the next few years.

hahah the Mile HIGH city indeed. You guys gotta remember though, there are still state laws concerning posession. The city may say ok, carry an Ounce, but if the state says otherwise your fucked. The main thing is that Mayor Hickenlooper probbly will not waste the time and money to prosecute. I definitely can see other cities passing similar laws; but i do not see any States passing any Pro-Pot initiatives.

[BP2K2Max]

a few states have decriminalized posession of marijuana to a certain amount. here in NY you can carry 20 grams and you won't get a criminal posession charge, you'll get unlawful posession(been there, done that). it just carries lesser penalties because they assume the weed's for personal use and not distribution. just because it's been decriminalized doesn't mean it's become legal. i guess it's a step in the right direction though.

[Damien]

It's so stupid though. So you have it, but obviously you got it from someone who has a heck of a lot more. This is just so cops dont arrest every person they see as oppose to those that have more than the allowed amount.

I guess it's a first step but...meh. W/e...

[vinnym86]

Originally Posted by BP2K2Max

a few states have decriminalized posession of marijuana to a certain amount. here in NY you can carry 20 grams and you won't get a criminal posession charge, you'll get unlawful posession(been there, done that). it just carries lesser penalties because they assume the weed's for personal use and not distribution. just because it's been decriminalized doesn't mean it's become legal. i guess it's a step in the right direction though.

that can go either way in NY. Even if you have less than 20, and they're in individual baggies, its "assumed" its for distribution, so theres ur F'ed. (a friend of mine was busted for such. don't worry, he doesn't put them in baggies anymore. he's graduated from nickel and diming...

[Toksin]

Caffeine, Alcohol most commonly.

Then the occasional bit of weed, nitrous, or BZP (but BZP not so much).

Planning on trying MDMA, mescaline and mushies.



So many uneducated people on here, I want to slam my head on the desk. Drugs are dangerous when you're irresponsible with them. Responsible use is safe use. You can't believe what the government drug war shitheads tell you, it's all propaganda. Look at sites like www.erowid.org for your information, it's actually BALANCED.

Josh, I think your psych professor is full of shit, to put it bluntly.

I don't see why people are so scared of drugs. If you don't want to take them, them don't. Nobody makes you take or buy drugs. Most people won't try force it on you, if you don't want it, there's plenty more people who do.

On that note, I get the fucking shits with people who say that they would try a certain drug "if it was legal." YOU CANNOT LIVE YOUR LIFE THINKING THE STATE KNOWS WHAT'S BEST FOR YOU. MAKE YOUR OWN MIND UP, FROM YOUR OWN EXPERIENCES OR THOSE OF OTHERS, AND DON'T ONLY GO OFF ONE OPINION.

Most importantly, if you do decide to try them, be safe. Know what you're taking. Usually it's the other shit in the drugs that kill people, not the drug itself.

Remember:

# Adults Only
# No Driving
# Set and Setting
# Resist Abuse
# Respect Rights of Others




Woooow, talk about a tangent.

[KustmAce]

Used to smoke primetimes, but I quit.

Now its only hookah, occasionally weed, and even less occasionally, salvia.

[vinnym86]

Originally Posted by KustmAce

Used to smoke primetimes, but I quit.

Now its only hookah, occasionally weed, and even less occasionally, salvia.

wow, salvia smoker, now thats rare. Did you use the leaves? or the oil extract? IMO company Purple Sticky is the only one n e one should bother with.