Beside the looks, the 03 Tiburon SUCKS (not opinion but facts)

[Euro19]

Originally posted by barry@hyundai
since you are supposabl;y quoting a magazine, here I go.
Quoting Autoweek Magazine, March 4, 2002.

'..and were suprised by the GT's communicative suspension'

' Hyundai called the exterior 'sleek European Styling'..It is a beautiful mix that veiwers seem to pick up different things. It is a beautiful mis that left one guy mettering something about a Ferrari 456'

'The Gt showed suprising smoothness and stability at more than 100mph, and was much quieter than expected.'

'We found the basic, black, sporty interior comfortable, with suppostive front seats.'


now, unlike you, I cannot claim these as facts. Why? Well, they are still opinin, just someone elses. You quoted an article, which was that writers opinion. Second hand opinion does not become fact...understand?

And look, I quoted the magazine, and the date published...you cannot even say what magazine it is in.

so what are you afraid of, that you may drive a Tib and like it? Go test drive one, you will be pleasantly suprised.

Barry@Hyundai

Afraid of what? Are you stupid or what? you could only have asked
I saw the article in Car & Driver mag, in the comparo with the Celica, RSX and Beetle Turbo. What I posted were FACTS, if not look up the definition on the dictionary. The only thing that isn´t a fact is about the design ok. And I don´t hate Hyundais actually, just people like you!

[barry@hyundai]

the point I was making is they are the opinions of the writers, not facts. If you stated FACTS like HP muber comparions, 0-60 times, etc.. thos are facts. No matter what a Car and Driver writer writes, it is still his opinion, see what I am saying. Nothing personal against you, just what it is...

and why do you hate people like me, because I am a sales manager for Hyundais, or because I proved you wrong? Because I drive a faster car then you, or because I showed another point of view?

Why are you getting so defensive, we are talking about a car here, right, not a matter of national pride or anything...

all I was stated when I asked if you were afraid , is are you afraid you might like it if you drive it... who knows, oyu may, or you may hate it. it may not be for you. does not mean it is a bad car. hell, i know it is not the car for me, does not mean it is a nice car, just means it is not for me, as it may not be for you, correct?

barry@hyundai

[-=ShOrTfUz=-]

Think about it like this
-we have more hp than all stock si's
-we can keep up with all but the gts model celica
-we rape all new eclipses
-we can beat all those cars and the GTS with a minimal amount of
money
-even afterwards we still cost less and we are getting a factory
warrentied supercharger from alpine racing. that means we will
still have our nice 10 year powertrain warrenty!

Check yourself and understand that the new tiburons are in the same class as all honduhs and whatnot. and we all race for the same reasons, to show domestic cars who's who!

[NiSmO_zt]

super charger....BOO! get a turbon:smoker2:












86 300zx turbo @12.5psi

[-=ShOrTfUz=-]

well considering it has not been out long it is cool that there is already an sc, im sure soon there will be turbos available but the car just came out.

[monkeychild]

All Jap cars were absolutely crap until the mid- late 80's when they started to sort it out. Nissan, Honda ok not so much Toyota were rust buckets the same goes for old Hyundais as well but now these manufacturers are creating absolutely fantastic bits of machinery.
I love the 300ZX and the 200SX and the new Z car looks so sweet. Do you remember the first Honda Prelude what a heap of crap that was. So don't diss a company that is finally starting to get things right, put it this way you would probably be saying the same things about Nissan if these message boards were about in the 80's. Moan over:silly2:

[ReDrUm]

Just letting you know.....a race was held not to long ago with a 03 tib and a 03 rsx....and ofcourse youd say the rsx beat the tib but think again....the tib won by car lengths not inches....it smoked the rsx without any hesitation...it took off first and finished first...another magazine also tried out the 03 tib.. they said it was a great car...was the magazine you were reading a DOMESTIC car mag???? but just letting you know the Tiburon smoked the RSX.

oooh yea.....a tib that was just bought smoked an eclipse that has been modified.

[Cmotif]

The Celica has a high horsepower 1.8 liter, 180 HP is I remember correctly, but is low on torque.

Torque is where the Tib should be stronger, have more displacement and more cylinders.

The Celica engine should be more peaky, and have to be kept driven hard to get the most out of it. I would like that the Tib would have power more like a BMW 6 which has more grunt over a broader RPM range.

What is the explanation given in the magazine why the GTS can beat it?

Cmotif <><

[NiSmO_zt]

first to monkey child,
nissans werent crap in the 80's man, the z car has been pluggin since the 70's and it was sweet all along, not much to say for other japanese cars in those days though

And redrum
i assure you that the acura was not a "type-s" the standard rsx has 160 hp, in a 4 banger, which has low torque, the tib has like 180 in a sixxer, with more torque, so what are you braggin about, i wasnt defending acura, but Nissan man, lets see the tib smoke a six cylinder nissan...

[akhedraki]

Dude, first of all, don't try to support crap nissans. They suck! Read any review and it will say that the new Z isn't as sporty as they thought it was going to be. I'm not talking about looks, I'm talking about feel. That thing is a sorry piece of crap thats not worth the money you pay for it. Second of all, to that one dude that said the tiburon has 181 horsepower and needs work on the torque. You guys don't no crap. You have it all wrong. The tib has 171 horspower with 181 torque. Don't look at all the old reviews and stuff. They have wrong info. Simply go to www.Hyundaiusa.com :alien: www.Hyundaiusa.com

[itsmeek]

Originally posted by ReDrUm
Just letting you know.....a race was held not to long ago with a 03 tib and a 03 rsx....and ofcourse youd say the rsx beat the tib but think again....the tib won by car lengths not inches....it smoked the rsx without any hesitation...it took off first and finished first...another magazine also tried out the 03 tib.. they said it was a great car...was the magazine you were reading a DOMESTIC car mag???? but just letting you know the Tiburon smoked the RSX.

oooh yea.....a tib that was just bought smoked an eclipse that has been modified.

i just love how hyundai owners think that they can smoke an rsx?? i can also smoke a camaro in my rsx-s, oh wait. didn't they make v6 camaros. your little comparo was done w/a stock rsx, i have NEVER lost a race to any type of TIBURON, in fact, it hasn't even been CLOSE. All i have is an injen air intake, the turbo, wheels, and chip are waiting. I would shoot myself if a stock HYUNDAI (read piece of trash) beat an rsx-s.

[itsmeek]

Originally posted by akhedraki
THis is to Euro19. Dude, i dont know what mag. you got that article out of, but most of it is false. First of all, you said that it doesn't have all season tires. It does have all season tires(It DOES drive in the snow) In fact, they are better tires than both the celica and rsx. Second of all, the interior of both the celica and rsx have relatively the same sizes. The Tib's back seet is bigger in some measurments, and thats a fact. I admit that the rsx is better if you have the extra cash, but the celica sucks. You have to dig out a good amount of dough just to get the celica to have the same features the tiburon has. Nothing is standard on the celica. Plus, the tiburon looks better than both those cars. Rsx may be better performance wize, but the styling sucks! Did you guys know that the tib. is #1 rally car and is currently beating the Subaru Impreza WRX.

And for the idiot who said you cant compare a honda to hyundai. Yes you could. Honda sucks. hyundai has improved so much but you damn people wont freaken get over it. Yes hyundai used to suck, but it don't No more.

i love this. now HONDA sucks. wow. i wonder why it's known as the most reliable car company out there along with toyota? i guess I had my cars crossed, it must have been the HYUNDAI and not the HONDA that has been on jd power and associates list every year for the last 10 years. I guess the HYUNDAI is the great car now. Wow, sorry, I must be really confused. It's so easy to ignore raw facts and statistics and put in your own five cents. It's also funny that some PUNK who doesn't know shit about swapping engines into cars has his car breaking down all the time. I've also owned HYUNDAIS and HONDAS and even some Eclipses and even a Starion. All of the cars outlasted the Hyundais which had CONSTANT problems. I coulda sworn I had 2 dealerships. Oh well, I guess the 15 and 16 year olds are the experts now.

[Euro19]

Well it´s obvious Hyundai is not a great car or whatever. I already told my experience with one of them, brand new, when I rented one on a vacation, it was awfull, the engine warmed up too much and the steering wheel shaked awfully around 80mph, etc etc, never more! I truly dont recommended.

[DCookSta]

Originally posted by Euro19
Well it´s obvious Hyundai is not a great car or whatever. I already told my experience with one of them, brand new, when I rented one on a vacation, it was awfull, the engine warmed up too much and the steering wheel shaked awfully around 80mph, etc etc, never more! I truly dont recommended.

I registered just for this...

I would say it's obvious that Hyundai doesn't have the greatest of reputations right now. But they are slowly building that back up. I own a Tiburon, a 98 and I love the car. All i've added is a custom CAI and the car amazes people even today that the styling and performace came from a hyundai. I'm not a super firm believer of Hyundai yet, this is my first...but it probably won't be my last.

Oh yeah, you shouldn't base your entire opinion of a car company on some RENTAL that you had. Admit it, you know some of those cars have been abused to hell and back.

Lastly, I'm not here to say what cars suck and what doesn't. Most things posted already are heavily based on opinion. Drive what you like, talk shit on the track.

[DCookSta]

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