Looking for a new Track Car- but need help deciding!

[M3 Special]

hmm, i think a 2006 M3 with Competition Package is about 55K, not bad. ive seen good reviews for it.

[CassiesMan]

Originally Posted by M3 Special

hmm, i think a 2006 M3 with Competition Package is about 55K, not bad. ive seen good reviews for it.

Werd like hell. A neighbor of mine has the ZCP and he races it...of course he also has a handfull of mods on it...and of course he has the Interlagos Blue...which is almost as beautiful as a naked hot chick...

Anyways, yeah, Im biased. But I still say get the M3.

[-Josh-]

Everyone's biased, they wouldn't be opinions if they weren't. I just want some good car talk to happen is all...shit's been few and far between here lately.

[joker1978]

Originally Posted by dxasaurus

A stock GTR can not even run with a Base C5 Vette. Don't even consider it. I've heard horror stories about those cars reliability. I knew someone with an R33. It got dusted by a 4th gen F-body before the engine blew on him(but I'm pretty sure it was due to the way he drove it). Wanna know what he ran with? Bolt on S2ks! Sound familiar?

Honda Tech has a couple of Skyline owners who have had nothing but problems. The parts are expensive and they are a butthole to work on.

Stay on task here, you want a track car, not some legendary name to earn street credit.

That's why I Wouldn't have a "stock" Gt-r. GT-R's are a more exotic higher performing version of the Supra. In a similar fashion- it is very rare to find one that is not BPU++. most GT-R's are capable of pushing very high #'s and every head to head track competition I've seen- a well set up Skyline crushes the competition across the board (on equally modified vehicles). That's my interest- plus having something that is not what every enthusiast and their grandpa drives would be nice too!

but again- this is still just an options- it might not be the best fit either.

[carrrnuttt]

Originally Posted by dxasaurus

A stock GTR can not even run with a Base C5 Vette.

Right. http://www.racingflix.com/getvideo.asp?v=425

[joker1978]

Originally Posted by carrrnuttt

Right. http://www.racingflix.com/getvideo.asp?v=425

that's probably just one of 3 or 4 vids I've seen... the only problem- a 2000 will run about 60k and its right hand drive and expensive as hell to fix!!!!

but man- a GTR with bolt ons will run 10/11's in the 1/4 alone-


btw- carrrnuttt... are you the same "carrrrnuttt" that used to troll around on s2ki???

Here's a couple I'm lookingn at:



All of the prices include transportation costs from
Tokyo, Japan to the following cities in the U.S., Long
Beach, Manzanillo, New Orleans, Miami, Savannah,
Norfolk, Baltimore & New York. I would need to know a
final destination to arrange transportation from the
above mentioned cities to the city that you reside in.
1995 Skyline GTR - $25,600
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...white-front.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...5white-rear.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...te-interior.jpg
* GTR
* R 33
* Twin Turbo
* RB 26 DETT Engine
* 1995 model
* 2 Doors Coupe
* 2600 cc
* 4WD
* Right Hand Drive
* Manual Transmission
* Fully Automatic Air Conditioned
* Power steering
* Power Windows
* Body kit
* Rear Spoiler
* Rear Wiper
* Steering wheel tilt
* Antilock Brake System
* Limited Slip Differential
* Alloy Wheels
* Central Locking
* Stereo
* Clean interior & Exterior
* White color
* Good Condition

1996 Skyline GTR - $27,800
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...ilver-front.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...silver-rear.jpg
* GTR
* R 33
* Turbo charge
* RB 26 DETT Engine
* 1996 model
* Coupe
* 2 Doors
* 4WD
* Body kit
* Right Hand Drive
* Manual Transmission
* Fully Automatic Air Conditioned
* Power steering
* Electric Windows
* Rear Spoiler
* Front Spoiler
* Rear Wiper
* Steering wheel tilt
* Antilock Brake System
* Traction control system
* Limited Slip Differential
* Side impact Bar
* SRS Air Bag
* Alloy Wheels
* Central Locking
* Stereo
* AM/FM Radio
* CD
* Clean interior & Exterior
* Silver color
* Good Condition

1999 Skyline GTR - $50,800
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...white-front.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...9white-rear.jpg
* GTR V Spec
* R 34
* Twin Turbo
* RB 26 DETT Engine
* 1999 model
* 2 Doors Coupe
* 2600 cc
* 4WD
* Body kit
* Right Hand Drive
* 6 speed Manual Transmission
* Fully Automatic Air Conditioned
* UV cut glass
* Discharge Lamps
* Power steering
* Electric Windows
* Front Spoiler
* Rear Spoiler
* Rear Wiper
* Steering wheel tilt
* Antilock Brake System
* Limited Slip Differential
* Side impact Bar
* SRS Duel Air Bag
* 18' inch Alloy Wheels
* Central Locking
* Stereo
* AM/FM Radio
* CD
* Clean interior & Exterior
* White color
* Good Condition

2000 Skyline GTR - $60,800
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...0blue-front.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...00blue-rear.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...ue-interior.jpg
* GTR V Spec
* R 34
* Twin Turbo
* RB 26 DETT Engine
* Year 2000 model
* 2 Doors Coupe
* 2600 cc
* 4WD
* Body kit
* Right Hand Drive
* 6 speed Manual Transmission
* Fully Automatic Air Conditioned
* UV cut glass
* Discharge Lamps
* Power steering
* Electric Windows
* Front Spoiler
* Rear Spoiler
* Rear Wiper
* Steering wheel tilt
* Antilock Brake System
* Limited Slip Differential
* Side impact Bar
* SRS Duel Air Bag
* 18' inch Alloy Wheels
* Central Locking
* Stereo
* AM/FM Radio
* CD
* Clean interior & Exterior
* Blue color
* Good Condition
* RB 20 DET Engine
* 1991 model
* Coupe
* 2 Doors
* Right Hand Drive
* Manual Transmission
* Air Conditioned
* Power steering
* Electric Windows
* Rear Spoiler
* Rear Wiper
* Fog Lamps
* Steering wheel tilt
* Limited Slip Differential
* Side impact Bar
* Alloy Wheels
* Central Locking
* Stereo
* Clean interior & Exterior
* Black color
* Good Condition

[TheStang00]

i say just buy an F-15 fighter jet, comon those two big turbofan jet engines... youll be kickin ass, atleast in top speed, who else is gonna be goin 1500 mph

[carrrnuttt]

Originally Posted by joker1978

btw- carrrnuttt... are you the same "carrrrnuttt" that used to troll around on s2ki???

LOL yeah. I thought your name looked familiar. Should've made the connection, when you mentioned you had an S2000. Haven't been there in a while and I also gave up hope on getting an S2000, as I had hoped, although I was mostly there to gather info for my buddy's turbo S, besides calling out the bullshitters in the Street Encounters forum.

[-Josh-]

Originally Posted by TheStang00

i say just buy an F-15 fighter jet, comon those two big turbofan jet engines... youll be kickin ass, atleast in top speed, who else is gonna be goin 1500 mph

Me when my turbo comes in for my echo...

[TheStang00]

Originally Posted by -Josh-

Me when my turbo comes in for my echo...

[nastyNater]

well now that your considering a skyline i say thats the best pick....if you find one. If you did, id be envious.

[joker1978]

Originally Posted by carrrnuttt

LOL yeah. I thought your name looked familiar. Should've made the connection, when you mentioned you had an S2000. Haven't been there in a while and I also gave up hope on getting an S2000, as I had hoped, although I was mostly there to gather info for my buddy's turbo S, besides calling out the bullshitters in the Street Encounters forum.

That's what I thought- my name was actually joeking1978 (but had to change it hear because one of my troll bashings followed a kid back to this website when he was talking out of his a$$ to get more of his cronies to go over to a relatively benign website to wreck havoc...

Those were always some good "debates" though!

[dxasaurus]

Originally Posted by carrrnuttt

Right. http://www.racingflix.com/getvideo.asp?v=425

That video seems suspicious. The fact that they used different drivers with different experience/skill levels alone makes me wonder how valid this can be.

[QUOTEThat's why I Wouldn't have a "stock" Gt-r. GT-R's are a more exotic higher performing version of the Supra. In a similar fashion- it is very rare to find one that is not BPU++. most GT-R's are capable of pushing very high #'s and every head to head track competition I've seen- a well set up Skyline crushes the competition across the board (on equally modified vehicles). That's my interest- plus having something that is not what every enthusiast and their grandpa drives would be nice too! [/quote]
More of a myth than anything else. It's only somehow faster because of it's name, but that is expected. If you don't keep the GTR stock, which I expected if you want to run with any class, I wouldn't expect you to keep the vette stock either. I know it's interesting to have an 'exotic' car, but if you are going for show, then maybe this topic shouldn't be in the race forum. I wouldn't say the skyline is a higher performing version of the Supra, I'd more call it a 4wd, more hyped version of the Supra. It's know around anywhere that the 2JZ can handle more boost on stock internals than the RB26DETT, not that the RB isn't impressive, as well. But the Vette can push out even more power on stock internals then the both. Doesn't the lingenfelter TT hold the record for that, anyway?

If you can get a Skyline easily for a reasonable price that is unmolested, then yes, you could def. have a rare, fast car. Just, do you want to go through that trouble when you can go down the street to get a vette?

I didn't mean to come off as a jerk. The skyline is one of my dreamcars too. A lot of people's dream car due to it's rareaty and plain badassness. If you get one, I expect good pics, wallpaper sized, but I just thought the way you were comming accross, you were looking for a good bang for your buck track car. A skyline is like a supermodel. Very very hight matainence. The man I knew with the R33's car was very cool. Maybe it's because of the emmisions controll, but it wasn't very impressive. stock.:/

[DinanM3_S2]

As an E46 M3 owner who tracks his car on occasion, I have pretty good knowledge about this car.

The first thing to know about the M3 is that it is before all, a street car, not a track car that happens to be street legal like the Elise. It has a pretty high quality leather interior, power everything, rear seats, etc. Because of all of these luxuries, the M3 weighs 3,400lbs, which is a bit heavier the other cars you listed.

The E46 M3 is also hard (and expensive) to modify. Forced induction is really hard to pull off because of the 11.5:1 compression ratio. There are some S/C packages out there, but we are talking at least $10,000, $20,000 for a good one (Dinan).

Now, if you can deal with those issues, the BMW M3 is an incredible car. It is the only car that you listed that can work well as both a track car and daily driver, which is a big reason I bought mine. It is the perfect combination of luxury and sport. They are fun as hell to drive. The M3 is also available with what I consider a huge advantage on a track, SMG, BMW's sequential transmission. Up until the new SMG on the M5, the E46 M3 had the best sequential transmission on a road car, better then the Ferrari 360F1 (not sure on the F430 yet). This transmission shifts faster then anyone can with a manual, and lets you keep both of your hands on the wheel. The launch control feature allows for near perfect launches, giving maximum RPMs with no wheelspin.

The Competition Package (ZCP) is nice, but some say the track mode of stability control is still too intrusive. You also get bigger front breaks and a set of CSL replica wheels.

If you are looking for a really good track car, I would get the Elise. The MR setup and rediculously light body is supposedly amazing to drive. If you want a good road car AND track car in one, I'd get a M3.

[joker1978]

thank you- I appreciate the good feedback regarding the M3!! its the first yet!


I also went and checked out a Roush Mustang GT just for the hell of it when driving by a lot yesterday- after taking a look (following one of the guys advice on here)- I can have a decked out Rousch Mustang- Supercharged- puting down 425hp, with modified suspension, lighter wheels, ect- out the door for about 30k... (I'm going to test drive one next week just to see how the power to weight ratio feels (about 3300lbs) and to speak with the Rousch rep to see if they can shed any weight with their performance mods- and what the max g's are that the car can pull...

so many options... such little room in my driveway!!!