coilovers suck

[e-flightvic]

Hi,
I'm not a mechanic, but I also installed an APC coil over kit with a friend. I did not reinstalled the bump stop(stupid of me) and my ride was horrible. Anywhere you set the height on the car, it always "hit" when you go over a small bump or crack on the road!

Do coil overs work better with adjustable struts?

Thanx

[BullShifter]

Originally Posted by rowitha

hey jackassi will i be alright without new shocks if im only lowered like an inch...? i got the coilovers for like 80 bucks and i just wanted to get them on my car...they were sitting there calling my name haha...your right though the rides diff. def. more bouncy but i can deal with that...my question is is it safe for daily driving? thanks

An inch will be ok, but the ride will be much better with upgraded struts. It's when you lower more you can run into problems I already stated. Under the right conditions, you hit a bump, suspension bottoms out while changing lanes at highway speeds, you could end up going for a spin or flip. That's if you slam without bumpstops. Truely the only (non full race)strut designed for coilover sleeves is Koni yellows.

I always rec. adjustable struts with any type of lowering, lowering springs or coilover sleeves.

The main purpose of adjustable height is for balancing a car, not to make it look cool. IMO adjustable height is over kill for street use since you will NEVER use for what it was designed for. To setup properly you need to align and corner weight EVERY time the ride height is changed. I say stick with good lowering springs & the best adjustable struts you can afford. Be cheap with suspension and you will feel it.

Struts don't go bad right away they go over time, which an untrained person can not feel. If you think 4" of lowering on stock struts without bumpstops rides nice you obviously don't know what to feel for. If so much lowering is good why don't you see any race cars slammed? Because they require something called SUSPENSION TRAVEL.

[e-flightvic]

Thanx Jackassi..

I could really "feel" every single bump in the road, and my friend with NO NAME lowering springs and original struts. Could bearly feel a "Bump" just nice bouncing :-)

....thanx

[91CRXTC]

I like my set-up, tokico adjustable shocks with eibach springs, came to about 1.5" drop, have the setting set to 4, was set to 3 for awhile but felt that 4 was feelin alittle less bouncy. Heres a Q for ya Jackasssi...the front cross member that connects to the lower control arms, if i replaced that if aftermarket would that help reduce the engine play i feel when i go off the line or am dealing with traffic. I put in engine mount bushings hoping that would help and it did by the smallest of fractions, its just annoying to feel the engine shift forward and back as im on and off the gas peddle. WYO?

[BullShifter]

I would start by checking the other 2 mounts. I've only installed Darkstar front crossmembers and don't recall them having better mounts. If your feeling it through the shifter you may want to install poly shifter bushings.


1PhatCX like I said that car IS NOT lowered 4"
As you can see here - http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/t438781.html

[1PhatCX]

thats because i lifted the front end back up when i had to tow it home buddy... dont believe me

thats a hell of a lot lower then stock, 4 inches to be correct

[turtlecrxsi]

My crx will be that color soon... *primer... just the roof, A-pillars and mirrors for now... will take photos....

oh yeah, front that low doesn't look very safe...

[1PhatCX]

lol, it was tho
i'd still be driving it if i had good tires too and it didnt get pulled off the road

[BullShifter]

Originally Posted by 1PhatCX

thats because i lifted the front end back up when i had to tow it home buddy... dont believe me
thats a hell of a lot lower then stock, 4 inches to be correct

How did I guess you would say some thing along those lines The front maybe close to 4" but if your not driving dropped 4" all the way around your orginal comment is completely POINTLESS. We Todd Did is right.

Originally Posted by 1PhatCX

lol
i love how people say coilovers give a shit ride,
mines dropped 4 inchs on no name coilover sleeves, with kyb gr2 struts rides like a dream

the car looks good and handles great
its all in the set-up

What setup? No name sleeves with GR2's is not a good handeling setup.

[1PhatCX]

actually.. its 4 inches all the way around...
if you look at a stock hatch, the back usually sits a bit higher. man, ur such a dickhead, u know what, i'm not even gonna argue anymore, you dont think u can lower a 4th gen 4 inches on coilovers and have a good ride so w/e

i know my car rides good and thats that.
if you post any more comments i will not reply to them because ur such a dickhead

[BullShifter]

Dont make stupid comments and I wont be a dickhead. My 91 Si is riding on Eibach pro kit springs(roughly 1.5" drop, never measured because I lowered for the true purpose) and it sits lower in the rear. That's a good idea just give up.

[turtlecrxsi]

Originally Posted by jackasssi

Dont make stupid comments and I wont be a dickhead. My 91 Si is riding on Eibach pro kit springs(roughly 1.5" drop, never measured because I lowered for the true purpose) and it sits lower in the rear. That's a good idea just give up.

Why would you want it lower in the rear? It's not RWD. I've driven cars with the back lower than the front and it just fucks up the steering response IMO (rwd and fwd).

[91CRXTC]

Well its obvious 1phatcx doesnt know how to set up a car, but everyone around him is dropping there car so he figured he would do them all better and drop his 4" cuz it looks cool. Well if he was to take matching cars his and one set up right and wiped them both through a course he would see that his great handling set up isnt that great. But hey he will learn some how, just figured he was on here to be a better civic/crx owner....guess not, but he also probably got the engine that eveyone says he should get. But i do like his hood.

[1PhatCX]

Originally Posted by 91CRXTC

Well its obvious 1phatcx doesnt know how to set up a car, but everyone around him is dropping there car so he figured he would do them all better and drop his 4" cuz it looks cool. Well if he was to take matching cars his and one set up right and wiped them both through a course he would see that his great handling set up isnt that great. But hey he will learn some how, just figured he was on here to be a better civic/crx owner....guess not, but he also probably got the engine that eveyone says he should get. But i do like his hood.

ok, first off. you dont know shit about me, or my car.
second, dont knock my set-up till u try it. i have taken many turns on the highway well over the speed limit and the car doesnt move, it rides like its on rails.

i raced my brothers friends jetta, he has a "good" set-up in that thing (koni yellows with some supposedly good name brand euro springs)
and i was killing him thru corners.
you also have to take into account that tires are a big factor in handeling as well. the more they grip, the better

[91CRXTC]

But you said u never took your car on the track, so again if its just on highway roads then your car might handle better, but thats cuz there are no tight corners like on a track. Also i see your leaning down on the passenger side, might want to check that out. And yeah i dont know you, but i do know your set up.