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You can get a RB25 swap done for like 2500-3500 for 280-300whp off the bat and it would be so much better

Ummm... 3500 would pay for the front clip... you would still need a driveshaft and unless you dont care about being ghetto - custom mounts, and then you'll want a prewired harness since the ghetto ones hardly work, and then you'll just have to ghetto rig the tach in.

that gets you 220-230 Wheel. add a downpipe and a boost controller and intercooler and you'll be in the 280 range

but that brings the total to a little over 5K for just the swap and 6500 for all the power making stuff.

for that much I'd just buy an S15 SR and do some boltons so the weight distribution isnt completely fucked.
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what cars have alum. 5.0's in them that you can get em cheap? and that $2500 you are using as an example doesn't really make a good example because you got a free engine, so that kind of throws off the cost a little.

and i dunno maybe it was race motors i was looking at, but i remember trying to find cheap aluminum ones, but the alum. was expensive, only iron was cheap. but this was just in catalogs...
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lol i gues im still missing it....

where do you get cheap, new aluminum block V8's with aluminum heads? still seems like they are 5-6k.

what i was originally saying is that to possibly save weight with a V8, like you said, vs. either ka or sr then it will cost a lot.
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LOL. most of those are at about 100k miles, automatic transmission, partially cut wiring harness, may or may not run, etc. etc. and im doubtful how many of them are aluminum like i said. maybe i didnt spell this out exactly but what i was talking about is a new, running, complete, engine with manual transmission, with aluminum block and heads. that, like i said, seems to be 5-6k. of course if you want to be ghetto with the swap you could grab any mercury engine with 117k miles on it and a partially cut wiring harness and dented oil pan and go from there, but thats not really what i had in mind.
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Re: Selling my 89 240 SX 350 V8 $3,995

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any race crate motor you run into is going to cost around 4 grand to 15 grand.........what really kills it is most of those motors are AFTERMARKET blocks that aren't made by chevy or ford, those themselves usually go for a couple grand.... but they have been refined to be stronger and lighter.

and since aluminum block v8's are fairly new, the longer you wait the cheaper they will become. There are a lot on the roads now and soon they will be showing up in junkyards by the handfuls, I think just about every v8 ford and chevy have now is all aluminum, I don't know about Dodge so I won't say.

Id actually splurge a little and find a 98+ 6.0L chevy motor from a tahoe, pickup, van, etc.... It is basically a 6 liter ls-1, if you were ever going to modify it, that would be a good engine to start with as its the same heads, intake manifold, and block design as the LS-1 and LS-6, they are reffered to as GENERATION 3 chevy small blocks.

All LT-1's are iron block, and LT-1's out of Impala SS, like this one, or Caprice cars are iron heads as well. Corvette and Z28/Transam have a more aggressive cam shaft, less compression, and aluminum heads. I'd rather have the Impala SS motor with the higher compression, and it still runs on 87 octane like a charm, one GREAT thing about that car....

Well, if you get a 6.0L motor out of a GM truck, you'll be getting an Iron block with aluminum heads. Still a LS motor, but Iron block.

Wait for some wrecked '05 Vettes and GTO's. Then you can get a LS2 motor, that's a 6.0L aluminum block LS motor. 400hp, 395tq out the door. Or, if you really want to go all out, buy a LS7 crate motor. 7.0L (427ci) that makes 505hp on 91 octane. All motor = Badass.

And, the LT1's in the Corvettes had a compression ratio of 10.4:1, or 10.8:1 for an LT4. Also the Camaro's had a compression ratio of about 10:1 compression. Each with aluminum heads of course. Requiring the use of high octane.

Also, I don't see how it's possible to have more compression with the iron heads the Caprice/Imapalla SS's and run lower octane. Even if the cam profiles are mild by comparison. If you're saying they have compression ratios of upwards of 11:1 and are running iron heads with 87 octane. I think you're slightly mistaken.

I believe their compression ratios where more along the lines of 9.5:1.
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When my friend...

When my friend gets done with his swap and dynos it ill tell you what it cost him to get it al done its gonna be like 3500.
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question, how much would dropping the V8 into the car cost

how much to get the tranny to fit, how much for the driveshaft, the rear diff., the axles, the mounts?????

and well the scrap yard sr20det, have an average miles of like between40k to 60k, not 140k
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Re: Selling my 89 240 SX 350 V8 $3,995

http://www.hpsalvage.com

Has good deals on LT1 and LS1 motors with low miles, usually includes transmission, uncut harness and ECU.

Back in '03 I was quoted $3300 for a LT1 w/ T56 six speed tranny with around 50K on it. Prices and milege might of changed... obviously.

But gives you an idea.
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Re: Selling my 89 240 SX 350 V8 $3,995

Back to the tread guys...
A 89 Very clean 240 SX hatchback already DONE for $3,995...

Outstanding fun right here cheap!
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Re: Selling my 89 240 SX 350 V8 $3,995

Not that anyone cares, but I really just don't like V8s anymore unless they are owned by a respectable person who didn't just swap a V8 in hsi car or buy a V8 equipped car and think he's fast.

Some of hte most annoying quotes ever:

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A car like that with a V8 is FAST!!
Uh douchebag, power isn't proportional to the number of cylinders your engine has.

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Oh man, you have a V8 in there?!?!?!?!???!!!
Count the spark plug wires asshole.

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Top fuel dragsters use V8s so they must be the best
Look at the latest issue of Summit Racing and price parts. You'll see that V8 parts are cheap as hell. Pistons for a SBC run about the same as a set of pistons for a KA or an SR. Shit, buy pistons through HKS or Greddy, your account will be in the negatives until you retire.

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V8s have more torque
Yea, once again, if it has a bigger number at the end, it makes more torque. And we all know that torque wins everything right? Wrong.

Peak Cylinder Pressure creates torque. Exactly the reason you usually pop ring lands right around 4k. Then stroke can amplify torque because the throws on the crankshaft act as levers. Bore will help with torque as well since pressure affects area. Increase the area of the piston head and increase how much force is being exerted on it. Say you have a PCP of 700psi. If you have 2 square inches of area on the top of the piston, then you have a total of 1400lbs pushing the piston down. Increase bore and pick up 1 square inch. You'll then have 2100lbs pushing down on the piston. But FI can just increase the amount of air entering the combustion chamber and effectively increase PCP.

So, don't just assume that because you have a V8, you have more torque.

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Well if I spent as much on my V8 as you did on your little 4 cylinder, I'd be going twice as fast!
So what? You're saying that because you aren't as into cars as I am, smart as I am, or just simply looking for an excuse to not win, I should just go ahead and say "you're right, you are faster than me,"? Fuck that. Its a competition of whos car is faster, not who can spend the least amount of money on their car. Stop making excuses. You lose.

And BTW, if you buy a brand new car with a V8 and say this, that is automatic grounds for an ass kicking. You just spent $20+k on a car. I haven't spent that much on my car including insurance asshat.

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But you aren't smart enough to, so go sit in the corner and bitch like a little girl.

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your engine is strung out while mine is just getting started
Yea, okay. You still lose.

So, uh, all you V8 guys please don't take offense to this(unless you want to in which case, I don't care, and you're wrong). Its all the posers that give most of you a bad name. Just like the ricers give us a bad name. If any of you actually know me, I have respect for just about anything. Esp fast ass cars. So go have fun.
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Old 07-04-2005, 09:46 PM
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i totally agree with that, i will respect anything thats fast, but i hate people that always have an excuse for losing

well excuses like if i had a turbo or if i didnt mess up the shift, you just suck at driving and tuning your car shut up and go home

well really people we should stop argueing about this her as this guy is trying to sell his car
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Re: Re: Selling my 89 240 SX 350 V8 $3,995

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what do you think a sr20 swap is? lol some engine from a scap yard....


and if your talking everything new it would be 5-6 grand. That would probably be what it would cost to have a rebuilt SR and rebuilt tranny with a new custom wiring harness as well....

well the SR's you are likely to get are less than 50k miles and will most likely run for another 100k
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Re: Selling my 89 240 SX 350 V8 $3,995

i dont really like the v8 win everything guys who say if it isnt a V8, its slow. A guy with a "built" 350 lost to a friend who had a I6 283 in a 67 camaro with stuff done to it...its funny to see the look on a guys face when his mighty V8 loses to a fellow domestic that turns out to be an inline 6.....


i think the car would be a cool car to own, but idk about gas mileage and maintaining everything on it...good luck with the sale
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It is actually a fun car to drive, yeah it doesn't get good gas mileage though...
I have respect for all cars, well almost...

I also like something that is different & orig.
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Re: Selling my 89 240 SX 350 V8 $3,995

Yep the 2.4 DOHC version is a good, reliable stout motor...

I wave at them as they pass me when I am at the gas station
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