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Old 05-11-2005, 09:09 PM   #31
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the only VW i would get is the 1.8t's. with very little money, they can whoop on a vr6 in every possible way.
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Old 05-11-2005, 09:18 PM   #32
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I was just thinking about those. Audi/Jettas 1.8T's are pretty sweet. Look good overall, and you shouldn't have a hard time finding one for a descent price. Plus, chicks dig em'.
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Old 05-11-2005, 09:30 PM   #33
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the only VW i would get is the 1.8t's. with very little money, they can whoop on a vr6 in every possible way.
I don't like the 1.8t's tranny, it is made of glass. My friend has gone through one with moderate driving after 8k miles. I would rather have the vr6, 6 speed plus plenty o torque
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but you know how a turbo is. yes the vr6 is faster stock, but with the price difference of the vr6 to the 1.8t, you'll be faster then the vr6. however i wasn't aware of the tranny problem that the 1.8t's have. but since your coming from a srt-4, the vr6 will be disapointing in performance.
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Re: No Idea What To Look For...

Okay, thanks for the replies. TatII, those pictures are awesome, is there some 240SX Gallery where I could check them out?

Also, how fast can a 300ZX do a 1/4 mile? I know it's faster than the 240SX stock and I was just curious...

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Edit: So, how would an older RX-7 and a Prelude compare to the 240SX? I'm really sorry, they just kind of caught my eye...

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Old 05-12-2005, 12:38 AM   #36
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a non turbo 300zx can run a mid to low 15 second 1/4 mile. a twin turbo can run a 14 flat to a 13.7 trapping usually at around 102mph.

a stock 240sx is a 16.1 car, not fast but not exactly a slug either. you can find pictures of 240's but going to google and just type in nissan S14, or S13 or if your curious the S15 which never made it to the states. then click on image. that will show you plenty of S chassis cars.
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Okay, thanks. I really like the look and styling of a Z32 300ZX so I may go with that, possibly. I'm so confused. If I leave that stock for a while, do you think I would get smoked by very many cars? Is a 14 Second car very fast?

Also, what's the differences between an S13 and S14? Are they both a 200SX? Sorry for my noobiness, but like I said, I've no idea what I'm doing.

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but you know how a turbo is. yes the vr6 is faster stock, but with the price difference of the vr6 to the 1.8t, you'll be faster then the vr6. however i wasn't aware of the tranny problem that the 1.8t's have. but since your coming from a srt-4, the vr6 will be disapointing in performance.
Nothing i get will compair to the performance of the Srt-4. I don't even want to touch a 1.8t cause of thier crappy tranny. Nothing but bad news. The Vr6 is faster stock but thats not what i am looken for. I want to go for more of a car that is an Autocrosser. The 1.8t is a spirited comuter. The Vr6 is a lil more serious with the 6spd and a better suspension. I would kill for a 337 or an anaversery addition gti but with the price thats outa the question.

Focus Svt costs less, better suspension and a superp 6 speed.

After driving a turbo car for a while i don't think i want another one. I don't really like turbos. I couldn't stand having to sit my car after driving it to cool down the turbo. I h8 the idea of all of you power coming from an object rather then your motor. I want a car i can beat the hell out of and then turn it off. I want to be able to do a 1/4 throttle run and not feel like i am towing a boat.

Don't get me wrong i would kill to get my Srt-4 back. But as a next car to have for a lil while, so my insurance to cool down i don't wanna have to worry about how well i took care of the turbo after 5 years.
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perfectly understandible, but if your lookin at autoxing, then i would rule out hte VR6. they are very noise heavy, and they're solid/semi rear trailing arm suspension sucks. they are too heavy to be lively. a 3rd gen vr6 would be a much better auto xing car since they are atleast lighter. i would definitly get a SVT focus if handing is what your after. well sorry to hear about your dislike for turbos. that problem that you have can easily be fixed with a turbo timer. and for me 1/4 throttle gives me like 5 psi on the highway. more then enough to take out most 4 bangers, i would expect your stock turbo to be more responsive then my T4.

you also have to remember, to make your vr6 even come close to your SRT4 your goni to need boost, so no matter how you slice it, your still goin to end up relying on a boost
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Okay, thanks. I really like the look and styling of a Z32 300ZX so I may go with that, possibly. I'm so confused. If I leave that stock for a while, do you think I would get smoked by very many cars? Is a 14 Second car very fast?

Also, what's the differences between an S13 and S14? Are they both a 200SX? Sorry for my noobiness, but like I said, I've no idea what I'm doing.

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just got on here, a 14 second car is pretty dang fast. a 300zx twinturbo or a 2003 mustang gt, those are low 14 second cars, to high 13 second cars. i didnt even think about this being your first car otherwise i wouldnt have told you to get a camaro. but a mr-2 imo is till not a bad choice, though i wouldnt go any farther than that.
the thing is it all depends on you, are you young and uncontrollable, or are you responsible and able to controll yourself? hell my dads first car was a hemi roadrunner. he was fine, no scrathes, no marks. but he just wasnt an idiot and goin racing everything in sight(he raced in back roads were there was no traffic )
tis why i say a mr-2 still isnt a bad choice depending on your person. but stay away from low 14 second cars.

as for you question about getting smoked if you bought a 300zx n/a. well, you could run with a svt focus, you could take out stock 240sx's, run with a xr4ti, but a eclipse turbo is gonna get ya, you might get ran by a girl in a turbo beetle lol(j/p kinda), there low 15 second cars. its not very fast but its not terribly slow, youd win some and loose some. but if you race some ricers, you'll win all day long
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btw insurance is higher on a 300zx than a 240sx.
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Okay, thanks. So would you recommend a 300ZX as my first car or should I lay off of something that fast? If so, I'll probably just with the 240SX I just need to find a way to still to make it really appeal to my eye. Whatever, that's my problem not yours.
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all 240's are the S chassis cars. 240's from the year 1989-1994 is the S13. 240's from 1995-1998 are the S14. and the cars that never made it to the states from 1999 to 2003 are the S15's.

the difference in the car S13's and S14's are the exterior, interior and size. the S13's are smaller and boxier casue they're older. the S14's are wider and alittle longer and rounder because its a new model.

nissans like to name the chassis in number order. this way when you say a S13, they know which 240 are you exactly talkin about. its sort of like saying, if someone owns a mustang, what year mustang is it? they've been making mustangs since the late 60's. so which year is it coming from? by saying like a fox body mustang, they know its the ones from the 80's to the early 90's.

another example would be the nissan skyline GTR

the GTR from 1989-1994 are the R32, the GTR from 1995-1998 are the R33's and the last of the GTR from 1999-2003 are the R34's. the 3 of them are pretty damn different. igor's GTR from AF is a R34.

same can be said with the Z. a 300ZX from the late 80's is the Z31. the 300ZX twin turbo or non turbo from 1989-1996 are the Z32. the 350Z is the Z33.

do you see the pattern here? same can be said with sentra's. the late 80's sentras are the B12's. and the first SE-R's from like 1992 to the mid 90's are the B13's. then the mid 90's to late 90's sentra's are B14's. and the current sentra's you see today are the B15's.
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Thanks so much TatII. You've been such a big help in making my decision. So, I'm pretty much set on getting the 240SX I just need to find one. One final question, should I look for a certain model/year? The S14 is by far more appealing to me but is there any major difference in performance? Oh yeah, is the Silvia a type of 240SX?

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Okay, thanks. So would you recommend a 300ZX as my first car or should I lay off of something that fast?
an old grandma can handle a 300zx n/a, there not fast, not dangerously fast at all. if you want the 300zx then get it
wich ever looks better to you, and can also afford insurance then get it

insurance is not gonna be that bad on a n/a 300zx from 1991

either is a good choice
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