bloody prelude

[S2Corolla]

Amen to that.

[mellowboy]

First of all i wasn't disrespecting anyone here . I assumed he was bein cocky cause PeterParker didn't want to race. Either he's cocky or he's the type of guy the would keep on buggin you. I don't even bother racing somebody that i know that i'll lose. Its pointless. I am totally against street racing no matter if its an empty road or your alone. ANYTHING GOES ..even if you're alone. You can break an axle or parts from your car that will cause you to lose control or distract you of whats goin on. I only street raced like 12 times? I stopped after hearing all this ppl gettin hurt stuff or getting caught by the cops. Now that guy in the prelude that i assumed bein cocky goes out for anyone who is doin the samething. Like i was like that before when i had an intake and i used to think my car ( stock si ) was all that. When i compared it to alot of cars then i realized my car wasn't all that. I was bein cocky and i started revving at other ppl and to see if they wanted to race. Alot of them didn't even bother to race. I can understand if that guy in the prelude have like built motor or really modified to race the camaros or other domestics or faster imports, but if he only has i/h/e then its not even worth messin around with cars like the camaros etc... You see what i'm sayin..i'm just babblin here but i just think that guy was bein cocky. I would never dare to race the camaro ss or any other big power house cars even with my b16 that i'm installing now. I would only race them if i was totally modified. Oh and bein a good driver on a slower car goin against a faster car is still pointless also.

[S2Corolla]

Racing a faster car when you're a good driver is pointless? That's what driving imports is about.
My friend raced an automatic Z28 in his GSR with a head package, and he took him all the way to 145. It's not pointless.
You should've seen the look on the faces of everyone there when I beat a 1999 Civic Si four times in a row because of his driving. Racing faster cars is WHY we race...
I'm not gonna race an automatic Civic DX, because I know I'll smoke him.
When I get my GSR I'm gonna go heads up with 5th gen Preludes, because I know that if my driving skills are as good as I think they are, I'll have a very good chance. When I get a head package I'm gonna go against Type R's and hybrids, because I think I'll have a shot.

You said you made an assumption, that was your first mistake.

The guy with the Civic Si bet me 150 dollars on the second race, and I knew I could beat him. That assumption bit him in the ass afterwards.

Originally posted by mellowboy
First of all i wasn't disrespecting anyone here . I assumed he was bein cocky cause PeterParker didn't want to race. Either he's cocky or he's the type of guy the would keep on buggin you. I don't even bother racing somebody that i know that i'll lose. Its pointless. I am totally against street racing no matter if its an empty road or your alone.......I would never dare to race the camaro ss or any other big power house cars even with my b16 that i'm installing now. I would only race them if i was totally modified. Oh and bein a good driver on a slower car goin against a faster car is still pointless also.

I didnt think you were being disrespectful. And you may be right in your assumption about the guy being cocky. But, I was trying to make a point about how theres more then one way to look at a situation. To you, it might be pointless to race someone thats faster then you. Thats your opinion and your entitled to it. Have you ever played a sport? If you dont play against people that are better / faster/ stronger then you, will you improve? If your the best at something who do you learn from? Its similar in racing. If your going against a car thats faster. you're forced to drive harder / better / faster to keep up. You may not win but your skill level goes up. Catch my drift? In my opinion, its not always about winning or losing. its about having a good time and being respectful to people that take care and pride in their cars.

[mellowboy]

Originally posted by S2Corolla
Racing a faster car when you're a good driver is pointless? That's what driving imports is about.
My friend raced an automatic Z28 in his GSR with a head package, and he took him all the way to 145. It's not pointless.
You should've seen the look on the faces of everyone there when I beat a 1999 Civic Si four times in a row because of his driving. Racing faster cars is WHY we race...
I'm not gonna race an automatic Civic DX, because I know I'll smoke him.
When I get my GSR I'm gonna go heads up with 5th gen Preludes, because I know that if my driving skills are as good as I think they are, I'll have a very good chance. When I get a head package I'm gonna go against Type R's and hybrids, because I think I'll have a shot.

You said you made an assumption, that was your first mistake.

The guy with the Civic Si bet me 150 dollars on the second race, and I knew I could beat him. That assumption bit him in the ass afterwards.

Ok s2corolla u didn't understand what i said. I said even if you are a good driver in a SLOW car it is pointless to race a guy that has a much more powerful car. It is import to be a skilled driver yes i know that. Say like i suck at driving...so what do i do? I get a faster car cause its a good advantage on my side rite?

[mellowboy]

Originally posted by 95vteclude


I didnt think you were being disrespectful. And you may be right in your assumption about the guy being cocky. But, I was trying to make a point about how theres more then one way to look at a situation. To you, it might be pointless to race someone thats faster then you. Thats your opinion and your entitled to it. Have you ever played a sport? If you dont play against people that are better / faster/ stronger then you, will you improve? If your the best at something who do you learn from? Its similar in racing. If your going against a car thats faster. you're forced to drive harder / better / faster to keep up. You may not win but your skill level goes up. Catch my drift? In my opinion, its not always about winning or losing. its about having a good time and being respectful to people that take care and pride in their cars.

I know you didn't say i was bein disrespectful . I just said that incase u guys got the impression that i was. Now i do understand about improving yourself in sports. Thats why i said i wouldn't race the camaro UNLESS if my car was totally modified. I'm not gonna race a 300 hp car in my lousy 108 hp car? Hell no. What do i do? I either build it up or swap it for a powerful motor and build that up. Thats the only way u can improve. I'm glad that we are not dissin on each other and handling this in good matter :finger:

[Polygon]

Originally posted by S2Corolla
Look at this flaming heaven



Even carrrnut flamed me, and he's a moderator... What does that say about Honda/Acura drivers "encouraging each other"?
Half of these fools flamed me for posting on a Honda/Acura thread that don't even own a Honda/Acura... And if you can't post a decent response to that other than "Oh they don't have to own a Honda/Acura" or "You started it with all your crap"
The guy who started the thread is my best friend, he posted that because I told him to race me, see how he does, and he wasn't sure about it. He KNEW I was gonna beat him but he started that thread on purpose....
I didn't start my crap, someone started crap by saying "it's a corolla whaddya expect"
Oh and Polygon, how fast would your car be WITHOUT that t304 garret turbo? Let me put a full set up t304 turbo on my rolla, even though i'm getting a GSR, and we'll see if you smoke me as bad.

Thanks kidrocket, and what about my car carrrnutt?

No as for you S2. After looking throught that link I fail to see where I flamed you. My only post was not a flame and was directed at the maker of the thread, no where in that thread do I even talk to you. As for my car with the Garrett T03, that came on my car stock, so I could car less what my car can do without it. Go ahead and put a T03 on your Corolla and I'll still kill you in a race. If I want I can drive my boost up to 30 PSi on the stock turbo and engine. I don't need to justify my car, I know what I can do with it. It is by no means my dream car, but it is still my car and I like it a whole damn lot.

[NSX-R-SSJ20K]

i am going to mediate


S2 was the only person who flammed and it didn't even have a point
it wasn't like he wanted to race him it wasn't like he went rice hunting or something the guy persisted to be an ass so he mashed his throttle and showed him why he should stop being a dick.

i'd like to say one thing the only response to S2 i have seen is Chill out

maybe you should hang at OT till you calm down

[93speed]

S2, why do you come in here flaming people and then bitching about people flaming you? YOU started it in this post and the other "flaming heaven". If you don't like it when people do it to you, why do you do it to other people?

And of course Honda drivers are gonna stick up for eachother. This is a HONDA forum. If I went into the corolla forum and started talkin garbage about killing corollas, wouldn't you think they'd get upset? If you don't like Honda drivers, there is a general street racing forum for your posting pleasure.

[peterparker]

I'd like to thank everybody who defended me. I had no intentions in putting down preludes or imports for that matter....

I have a great deal of respect for fast cars in general, whether it be a domestic or an import....

I was out looking for a race one night when I got my a$$ handed to me by a NSX with a blower and im not ashamed about it at all. Man that car was quick.

Originally posted by mellowboy


Now i do understand about improving yourself in sports. Thats why i said i wouldn't race the camaro UNLESS if my car was totally modified. I'm not gonna race a 300 hp car in my lousy 108 hp car? Hell no. What do i do? I either build it up or swap it for a powerful motor and build that up. Thats the only way u can improve. I'm glad that we are not dissin on each other and handling this in good matter :finger:

a 200 hp prelude is no match for a 300 hp muscle car. that i will agree to... unless the car is dogged and needs lots of work or the driver stalls out or something... a 108 hp civic is no match for a 200 hp prelude either. but if you think about it the outcome of the races would be about the same. the camaro is about 2 seconds faster in the quarter then the prelude and the prelude is about 2 seconds faster then the civic. Perhaps you feel it would be a waste of time to run against a camaro unless you have your car fully built is understandable. Would you not race a prelude?

Heres a thought... say the dude in the Prelude is having a turbo put in and getting his engines internals all built-up next week. the next time he sees peter parker on the street and they race the outcome might be different. he'll be able to gauge how much of a difference that turbo made even if he still loses without going to the track.

[mellowboy]

Originally posted by 95vteclude


a 200 hp prelude is no match for a 300 hp muscle car. that i will agree to... unless the car is dogged and needs lots of work or the driver stalls out or something... a 108 hp civic is no match for a 200 hp prelude either. but if you think about it the outcome of the races would be about the same. the camaro is about 2 seconds faster in the quarter then the prelude and the prelude is about 2 seconds faster then the civic. Perhaps you feel it would be a waste of time to run against a camaro unless you have your car fully built is understandable. Would you not race a prelude?

Heres a thought... say the dude in the Prelude is having a turbo put in and getting his engines internals all built-up next week. the next time he sees peter parker on the street and they race the outcome might be different. he'll be able to gauge how much of a difference that turbo made even if he still loses without going to the track.

Ok i wouldn't want to race a prelude with my crx si cause i know i'll lose. You don't know if he's gonna put turbo and he didn't have turbo then. I know what you're sayin though. I mean I can say the same to everyone that lost. Its pointless of sayin "oh if he has his engine build up and slapped a turbo on there he would've taken him" The key word is "IF" . Then i can say that well if PeterParkers camaro slapped on a supercharger then it would be a different outcome. I didn't say it cause i don't know the guy and i don't know what he plans on doin to his car. So what makes u think that he's gonna get turbo? You see you don't know and neither do i. Your only repeating what i said on my other post. When i said i wouldn't race a camaro unless my car was totally modified. You just repeated what i just said but in your own words. Lil bit different but i know what your sayin. So what matters is NOW not IF hes gonna do this or that in the future.You know what i'm sayin?

[S2Corolla]

Okay, mellowboy, you made things very confusing in a very short matter of time.
You said earlier that you thought it was pointless to race a faster car if you're a good driver in a slower car. You NEVER said if it was a considerably faster car, or if you had a considerably slow car, you just said, good driver in slower car, and faster car. Now you're turning things around.
Okay and what he said about the Prelude measuring the difference, has nothing to do with racing with a modified vehicle. It's racing... to measure the difference. He might tell himself... "Okay, that SS blew by me like I was in neutral at 0 mph... Next week I'll see what a head package and an intake can do..." That's not saying, "Oh I have a turbo and an 85 shot of nos, so before I blow up my motor and send myself to Hell... I wanna know how I fare against this SS...."

And... How do you know the Prelude driver KNEW it was an SS???

When you're on the freeway it's hard to distinguish a car's model unless you knew the car well. I had a 68 Firebird and I got on the line and a Camaro came up... I thought to myself, "Oh he has a hood scoop... 3" exhaust... Modified Z28... Ahh I can beat him..." I pulled a 13.3... and he pulled a 12.9... That's a big difference, at least 3 car lengths... I found out it was a SS, and I started doing research. For all we know, the Prelude driver could've thought it was a V6 camaro with dual exhaust. Who knows.... You never know... Until you race.

*how was that post? was that aggressive?*

[BlkCamaroSS]

Just depends how well you know cars whether or not you can identify it in a flash. Myself, having driven two Camaros, and have utter distain for mustangs, can recognize by the body panels, the rims, and the ride of the car what the original model it was on most domestics. It's a little harder on imports for me, but that's cause I don't have much experience with them (only what I've learned from my brother). This only tells you what it was, not what it is, just keep the racing smart and safe.

[mellowboy]

Originally posted by S2Corolla
Okay, mellowboy, you made things very confusing in a very short matter of time.
You said earlier that you thought it was pointless to race a faster car if you're a good driver in a slower car. You NEVER said if it was a considerably faster car, or if you had a considerably slow car, you just said, good driver in slower car, and faster car. Now you're turning things around.

Well whatever man you just misunderstood me thats all. I meant to say that you'll still lose even if you're a good driver in a slower car goin against a faster car even if the guy in the faster car isn't that great of a driver. Thats what i'm tryin to say. IF i cofused you thats because u misunderstood me.