Magnum RT can beat a Lotus?

[street_racer_00]

Lol you know what's funny...we are arguing about a race in a dodge commercial that never even took place.

[Polygon]

There is a ton of bullshit in this thread, let's address it.

1. Sl0wRegal, if your Regal is N/A then it wasn't a Hemi you raced. My dad has a Jeep with a Hemi, and it would kick a Regals ass.

2. TheStang00, yes, you can call any engine with hemispherical heads a Hemi if you want to, but there is more than that to a Chrysler Hemi. That is why they patented the name.

3. 2000LS1Z28, I would love to see proof that the 5.7L Hemi only makes mid 200 whp.

4. Sl0wRegal, the new 5.7L and 6.1L Hemi both have hemispherical heads. I don't know where you heard that they didn't but they most surely do.

Come on people; don’t just post random bullshit without some proof to back it up!

[street_racer_00]

I can address #1 for you...he has a supercharged regal GS, with a pulley swap and some other stuff I can't remember, I checked out his page, so it is pretty damned quick for a grandpamobile...as for the other stuff...#3: I have heard lots of claims from different people that the hemi only dynos at ~255 at the wheels, for some reason there is a huge power loss somewhere in the drivetrain, or maybe it's another one of those fiascos where the manufacturer overrated the engine(ex: the 2001 mazda miatas and the 98-00 non-supercharged mustang cobras).

[Sl0wRegal]

Ohhh wow Turbonator thanks for clearing everything up since you know everything!!! I work for one of the largest dealrships in my city and i have driven EVERY Hemi powred car there is and seen the inside of them also and i can assure you young grasshopper that they DO NOT have a hemispherical head! I'm not a fuckin moron dude so don't treat me and the other people in this thread like they are. Yes my GS is modded and it ran 14.799 stock. I'm not stock anymore. Still don't beleive me about what the heads of a new Hemi look like? I'll take a pic of the heads off of the next Hemi that is worked on and show you but...... if i'm right you have to suck my dick
Don't like bullshit in threads? Neither do I and i also don't like uninformed people.

[TheStang00]

[TheStang00]

lol ive never seen that one used... so i thought id use it

[Polygon]

Well, Sl0wRegal, no need to get pissy with me. That is why I said if your Regal is N/A. Since you have a SC with a pully and some other mods then I do think you can beat a Hemi. I'm sorry I was at work when I made that post and did not have time to read you CarDomain page.

However, don't call me uninformed, just because you think you've driven a lo0t of cars woth the Hemi does not mean you know its design. I guess you've taken one apart. Go read this entire page at AllPar talking about the new Hemi design. Here are some quotes from the page:

The new Hemi features cross-flow aluminum cylinder heads with hemispherical combustion chambers and cast, steel rocker arm actuated splayed valves for high air flow; two spark plugs per cylinder for fast, efficient combustion; and a new direct ignition system with high-power coils ensuring consistent, complete combustion.

The engine's unique two-valve hemispherical combustion chamber within an aluminum head provides impressive air flow, torque and power (hallmarks of the original), and gives the engine its throaty rumble. Fifty-six pounds lighter than the 5.9-liter V-8, the 5.7-liter Hemi produces 41% more power and 12% more peak torque, and appears to have substantial reserve for more power gains.

Here is the source, I suggest you read the entire thing:

http://www.allpar.com/mopar/new-mopar-hemi.html

Now, until you provide me with some proof that the new Hemis do not have hemispherical combustion chambers I will continue to think you're full of shit. You say they don't yet provide to facts or proof to back it up and still call me uniformed.

On a side note, I'm still waiting for some proof that they dyno at 255 whp. I just don't see how a car that weighs that much can do 0-60 in the 6s with only 255 whp.

[fierangero]

my dual-plug head is neither fast nor efficient. one set of plugs will go 45k miles, the other side will ony go 15k (instead of 30 on each side). direct ignition (read: distributorless) is not exactly new...wow if my 100hp 4 banger didnt have these "amazing, revolutionary power-adders) id have myself a beetle motor?

[Sl0wRegal]

Show me domed pistons and the head to match them pistons on a new Hemi...... The piston on a new Hemi are completely flat and ARE NOT domed like the original Hemi and the head design is basically "half" of what an old Hemi is. They can't use a "real" Hemi design these days because they wouldn't meet emmisions standards. The head of a new Hemi today is more or less half of a Hemi. The valves are inclined and when the valve opens it moves the valve away from the cylinder wall preventing shrouding. This cyinder head design is not a hemisperical head. Want proof? Search on google for "New Hemi designs" and tell me what you come up with.

[Polygon]

Originally Posted by Sl0wRegal

Show me domed pistons and the head to match them pistons on a new Hemi...... The piston on a new Hemi are completely flat and ARE NOT domed like the original Hemi and the head design is basically "half" of what an old Hemi is. They can't use a "real" Hemi design these days because they wouldn't meet emmisions standards. The head of a new Hemi today is more or less half of a Hemi. The valves are inclined and when the valve opens it moves the valve away from the cylinder wall preventing shrouding. This cyinder head design is not a hemisperical head. Want proof? Search on google for "New Hemi designs" and tell me what you come up with.

Yep, you're real cool!

Anyhow, you didn't even read the link that I provided did you. The 5.7L and the 6.1L Hemi both have hemispherical heads. No they do not have domed pistons, but neither did the first Hemi, the 331, that Chrysler put in a car.



You need to read up on the history of the Hemi some more, you honestly don't know what you're talking about. Here are a few links for you and even though they are kind of long I highly suggest you read them. I doubt you will though, you seem to have made you mind up even though you don't know what you're talking about. Also, I'm done with this, I've proven my point and I've posted facts to back it up.

The 5.7L and 6.1L Hemi.

The 426 Hemi.

Hemi history.

Also, on a side note Chrysler was not really trying to say that the Magnum can beat a Lotus in that ad. They are trying to say that the Magnum is fast and sporty yet you can still haul a bunch of crap in the back unlike a small sports car.

[street_racer_00]

Not true...I work at home depot and I saw a guy hauling 4 6 foot 2x4s in the back of his 2nd gen. RX7