Would u go on Steroids?

[Gotti]

Rick you're 6'8'' !!! holy shit, you're a monster. Taller than Michael Jordan, and a full foot taller than me lol but only 30 pounds heavier. You must be skinny as hell, if you're that tall you should be 200+ lbs

I'd say use that mass gainer protein

[kornflakes28546]

zwrangler is exactly right. if you do just a little bit of research, and ask people that have been there, they're all going to say what zwrangler did. eat,lift,eat,sleep it's easy if you do it right. you're using steroids as an excuse.

[RickwithaTbird]

hey now... Im skinny, but not skinny as hell. Ive seen pictures from when I was 6'5 150, and THAT was skinny as hell. Heres a picture:



I weighed 195 in that picture. I didnt try to flex or anything to look bigger either. So I think if I was about 210 - 215 after muscle gains, I would be somewhat stout. But the thing is, its hard to hit 200. I did it when I was 15, but since high school I havent been able to work out every day anymore. Once I get a good job installing car stereos as an MECP, I will have the time and money to start working out again, and by that time I will probably get a subscription to a good magazine with tips on workout programs, and I will have done more research too. Im pretty sure I can reach about 215 with some hard work, but I really cant imagine ever reaching 230, 240. It seems impossible.

[Gotti]

what nationality are you? You look like this portuguese guy i know

[RickwithaTbird]

im just white. Thats the first time anyone said I look potugee lol. When I shave I look like a straight up white boy, but when I grow my goatee and mustache I look italian. Must just be the bad photo quality.

Anyways, about the steroid topic, I was just tossing that idea around since the thread was there. But from what you guys all say, I don't think that I will do it. But I can't honestly say that I would never consider one or two shots if I am having a hard time even while trying my best. But like you all said, if I eat right and work out right I should be able to do it, and thats really the only situation I would take steroids in anyways. So it shouldn't come down to that.

[leadfootGTP]

yeah you dont need steroids, definately try improving your routine before anything else, hit each muscle group twice a week, once hard and once (about 3 days later) lightly, dont work out one group very hard more than once a week though. If you plan it out right you should hit one muscle group hard and a different one lightly every day for the most efficient plan. along w/ whey protein eat turkey, chicken, ham, that sort of stuff instead of burgers. Itll help you a lot more. If you want you could take creatine as well, it will give you more energy during your sets, youll hit more reps. Get plenty of rest at night too, thats when your muscles do most of their growing

[lamehonda]

Originally Posted by Oz

I would think about giving it a go. I have seen guys put on 20+ kg of muscle over a month or two. Maybe.

so you can become impotent and grow breasts?

[Oz]

That could happen anyway, at least I'd be 20kg heavier to smack the first one to laugh at it.

[beyondloadedSE]

Ok, I can personally vouch for this since I have taken steroids. Ive taken dynaball. My father has competed in bodybuilding and has taken them and so has my brother. My brother has taken dynaball, test, eq and is just getting ready to start another cycle with winny as well as 2 other things.

First of all...1 or 2 shots of steroids wont even be noticable. Youll probably have to be on a cycle for a 2-3 weeks to even start to notice gains.

I have heard of people having rage using steroids, but in my personal experience as well as my brother and father, we have never had any sort of mood swings.

Excessive use of steroids can be hard on your liver.

Acne break outs can occur. Again, in my case as well as my brothers, it was not an issue.

I think its funny how people say, I dont want to take steroids because I might get too big. These people you see on the covers of Muscle and Fiction...errr Fitness, sorry are genetically gifted. Not to mention, they spend over $50,000 in steroids and prohormones for a competition. Some steroids will make you bigger, others will rip you up. Its generally best to stack one of both. Steroids is not a miracle drug all within itself. It takes the right diet, workout intensity, sleep, as well as other supplements to take full benefit of a cycle. Most poeple probably gain about 15 lbs per cycle and on the off cycle, probably keep a few pounds.

Steroids can make your balls strink. Dynaball had no affect on me, but the injectable stuff like test and eq as well as hormones, will certainly take their effect. Like someone said earlier Clomid or 6oxo can be used to produce more estrogen in the body after a post cycle.

Steroids do make you stronger and the recovery cycle is shortened.

Thats all that i can think of for now.

[kornflakes28546]

that's some good insight from someone who has taken them...

but its dianabol not dynaball. im sure your bro and dad helped you out with your routine and cycle. but if you don't know what to take or how to take it. DO NOT DO A CYCLE

[ghostrx7]

agreed that 2 shots aint gettin u nothing, but six over a 2 week period will. i wouldnt say i had mood swings, just feeling pissed all the time!!!!for a calm guy thats gotta say something. i did d-ball, and test. i tell u the bad shit happens when u stop, but like i said, if u want to take it forever and shorten ur lifespan, ull be ok. just a heart attack at 50, but u would be ripped!

[pnoiSR20]

that is some serious insight from a guy that has taken steroids.

I also heard that steroids is more riskier in the injected form instead of the gel that Crappy Bonds used?

Is that true?

[ghostrx7]

i actually used that gel shit before and it was weaker then the shot. it was also in a legal packaging which was kind of conforting, and u dont have to take that needle!!!!!that shit sucked!u feel like a heroin user or somethin.

[Porsche]

Originally Posted by Zwrangler

First off, you were obviously and clearly overtraining, no wonder you made no gains. Most people think twice a week to exercise a muscle group is overtraining yet you were doing it not twice but three times a week. Stick to working each muscle group ONCE a week. Muscles grow when they are resting not at the gym.
I'm gonna take a wild guess and also assume you were doing way too many sets. 9-12 sets should be your goal for your chest. That means no more than 4 exercises with no more than 4 sets of each exercise.

I 100% Agree, there are some people that really know their shit here.

I sometimes do muscles twice a week, but only if I'm getting a lot of rest in between. You also have to look at the recovery time for certain groups, biceps and calves I believe are about 24 hours, while lower back is 72 hours. You have to learn about your body before you can expect to improve it.

I once read that Dorian Yates spent 3 weeks reading books before he lifted a single weight at the start of his career.

Another reason for your plateauing is your height, as you've undoubtely noticed. Us taller folk (I'm 6' 4") have longer arms, and therefore greater moments in our shoulders require to bench amongst other exercises. It's extremely hard for me to make gains wheras my 5' 9" friend can see consistent gains even after time off.

Just stick with it, ifg you feel it isn't working, switch things up, try more or less reps, different exercises, start with different exercises. Never do the same routine twice, change at least one thing. Don't forget dedication either. Since I started going hardcore 1.5 years ago, my bench has gone up about 100 lbs (150-255) and my frame is slowly filling out, but you have to be consistent!

Again, don't neglect nutrition. I can't stand to be in the presence of salt of manufactured sugars anymore. Keep things high in protein and carbs, low in empty calories.

edit: forgot my stance on steroids.

For me my gains have been quite satisfactory and so I have no need for such things... yet. I say yet because maybe someday I might end up being some sort of bodybuilder, but I would never consider such a thing unless I was at the top amateur level.

I think a lot of people are looking for big gains, quickly. I love gains as much as the next guy, but I can wait. I have hopes and dreams, but I've come to peace with the fact that those will take time and energy to achieve. Steroids to me seem like you're taking a shortcut rather than running the whole race.

I just think that if I ever did, I'd want at least 10-12 years of training to remind me of how hard I worked to get there and put in perspective what I actually had to gain at that point. I'd say if you're under 25, you're too young to be consdiering such a thing as steroids. Give it a couple more years then decide where you want to go with things. No point in being retardedly jacked if you misuse it.

[Oz]

Fuck it all. I would probably still give it a stab just to know for sure exactly how it affects me and what the capabilities of the substance are.