All the problems i have had.......

[Pat_OD]

stupid question maybe but what do they do when they "turn" your rotors?

[MCO_Death]

Originally Posted by Pat_OD

stupid question maybe but what do they do when they "turn" your rotors?

Grind the face that goes against the pads on your rotor to make it 'level' to the pads... Simply put.



I've noticed a lot of the troubles Impala's have been the 3.4's If not all of the ones in this post.

I have 2 Impala's with the 3.8, both are solid runners.

Police packaged 2000
~160,000 miles

- Replaced the control arm bushings and front wheel bearings and ball joints at 145k miles, wear issues mostly.

- Flushed out all the dexcool for good. Did that by my own choice.

- Replaced the transmission at 160k, it was a police car after all, its a miracle I got that many miles out of it without troubles.

2003 Impala LS
~40,000 miles

- Brake rotors sucked and needed replaced, no other problems.

[Pat_OD]

i figured thats what u meant, but why the hell do they call it turning?

[3.4imp]

I think you're right about the 3.4's. mine has always had trouble.

[MCO_Death]

Originally Posted by Pat_OD

i figured thats what u meant, but why the hell do they call it turning?

Because they 'turn' it as they go. More confusing names they give things, more likely it is that you won't try to figure out how to do it yourself

[bermis519]

Well here is an update on my car.....

I have 89,000 miles on it now.
After repeated complaints to a chevrolet customer service person about the transmission and repeated complaint at the repair shop about my transmission it finally went. They would tell me that it's find and the heistation going into reverse would not affect the longivity of the transmission. It happened when i was in the middle of no where and no cell phone service. I was PISSED!!!!!!!!!!!!! So i sat and waited and wouldn't you know it....a wrecker was coming down the road. He stopped and of course picked me up and towed me to the repair shop. After the repair was made at no cost to me by that after market warranty i have, the mechanic told me it looked like the transmission exploded. He said that it was a mess in there. I just recently did a tranny flush on it at 89,000 and had one done when they did that solinoid tranny overhaul. Before the tranny overhaul i had one done also. But the new one is great, feels TOTALLY different then the one that was in it.

Just the other day i replaced the brakes AGAIN...i've got it down to a science...takes me less then 15 minutes a side with new pads and rotors.

I just had the fuel pressure regulator replaced again after is started leaking for the second time. Again warranty covered it.

I have to replace the temp sensor??? it's a sensor that has to do with the electric choke or something when the car is started cold. Something about the engine in an open loop and when it warms up it goes into a closed loop and it doesn't use that temp sensor or something. I would start that car, it would run and stall out, spit and sputter and would wreak of gas. Until it would warm up..and then it would be fine some of the time.

Some of you where talking about how people that don't take care of their cars have a lot of problems. I have taken great car of it and it still keeps failing. I swear this car has been in the shop over 20 times. The place I use to take it refused to work on it anymore because of the extent of the problems. So i had to find another place to take it.

It just really fustrates me the chevy doesn't think there is a problem with it. I have another 10.000 miles on my warranty and i don't know what i'm going to do. I have decided not to get a motorcycle just because of this car and the extra money that i need all the time to keep it going. This car makes me nervous, if i go on a rather long trip, i rent a car instead because i'm afraid that it's going to break down.

At this point, I can't believe the problems i have had, it's just for fricking unreal and at this point i dont' care anymore. Ya the warranty has paid a good portion of it. Everytime somehting goes wrong i have to pay a 200 deductible and also cover what the warranty won't. I don't beat on it have actually babied it the whole time because i dont' want it to break. Hell when the tranny went, i wasn't even pushing on the gas. I actually had my foot on the brake coasting into a turn and when it down shifted it just started all kinds of noises.

I called the bank and i owe about 4,000 on it yet and i think i'm just going to put a for sale sign in the window and get it outta here. Then i'm gonna go and buy a ford.....FUCK GM!!!!!!!!!!!!



If you guys have any comments, questions, suggestions, adive whatever let me know because I like to hear what you guys think.........


Thanks

Mike

[Pat_OD]

yea i like that whole "Fuck GM" thing you got going on. Barely any1 else on this board seems to agree with me when i say that GM is a shitty company.

[dmorlow]

Originally Posted by bermis519

I called the bank and i owe about 4,000 on it yet and i think i'm just going to put a for sale sign in the window and get it outta here. Then i'm gonna go and buy a ford.....FUCK GM!!!!!!!!!!!!



If you guys have any comments, questions, suggestions, adive whatever let me know because I like to hear what you guys think.........


Thanks

Mike

If I were you, I wouldn't buy a Ford. I've never heard good things about Ford. I would probably go with Toyota or something like that. The problem with my family is my Dad, one uncle and one aunt works for GM. We are a GM family. If you buy anything else, you'll be disowned. If I wasn't in a "GM family," I would take a very close look at Toyota. They are #1 for customer loyalty and satisfaction. Plus right now, GM is the largest auto manufacturer in the world. But my dad keeps on telling me how Toyota is very close in taking them over on that. Plus Toyota has way more money than GM. Toyota could buy GM about 5 times over.

[montecarlossfan]

actually gm is a great car company..they just spent too much time on their suv's and trucks now that gas is goign up no one wants them so now they gotta put their effort back into their cars...if they pu even 1/2 the effort in their cars...then they would be engineered a helluva lot better

[MCO_Death]

I'd just like to point out that most of the owners on here with the 3.4 Liter Impala have %90 of the problems with their cars. I am curious why you would have to pay if your car has warrenty on it yet. But whatever. Have fun in your new imported car.

[BNaylor]

Originally Posted by MCO_Death

I'd just like to point out that most of the owners on here with the 3.4 Liter Impala have %90 of the problems with their cars. I am curious why you would have to pay if your car has warrenty on it yet. But whatever. Have fun in your new imported car.

I heard a lot of Fords maybe "Made in Mexico". FORD = Found on Read Dead, Fix or Repair Daily, F?#&'d on Race Day. Good luck!


Thrasher CAI, DHP v1.0 ECU, Granatelli CAI Tuneable MAF,
3.4 SC pulley, Hi-Flow CAT, u-bend delete, 180 TS, TB spacer
ET: 14.3 @ 96 mph

[3.4imp]

bermis, just curious what engine size is your imp. I agree with you "FUCK GM". when my tranny went out it was still under the extended warranty. I STILL had to pay 700$ of my own money. someone in this forum stated "why would you pay if its under warranty"? hell what can you do if the dealer says the warranty only covers certain things. then they start stone walling. friends tell me to sell my car. how the hell would i do that. I bought it new at dealership for 20,000$. I've spent about 5,000$ dollars of my own money in repairs. I still owe about 5,000$ dollars on the car. if i sold it I would still owe gm 5,000$. and resale on on these impalas are about 4,000-6,500$ bucks. so that means if I sold it for 6,000$ dollars pay gm the 5grand AND WOW I WOULD HAVE A WHOLE 1,000$ TO BUY ANOTHER CAR. NO THANKS. why would i sell it and lose all that money, and probably the next person that gets it won't have any problems with it. because i've literally replaced everything! If i trade it in they would add the 5 grand on to the car i'm getting. If someone knows some magical way I could sell the car and not pay back gm, please let me know. p.s. my 97 del sol with over 100,000 miles has not had one problem.

[dmorlow]

See, I still have less than 3,000 miles on my car so nothing has gone wrong with it yet. But when I bought the car, I decided to go with the extended warranty on the car. My last car had so many problems that I spent as much as I paid for the car in repairs. But when we were finalizing the deal on this car, the salesman started to expain the extended warranty and all the fine print. He got to the spot where it had a deductible on the warranty repairs. I think it was a $500 deductible. They were trying to talk me out of paying the extra money to not have a deductible. (The odd thing though was the salesman was trying to talk me out of paying the extra $1,000 for the $0 deductible.) But my last car I spent over $3,000 in repairs within the last few months. And since I bought the car, I put over $5,000 in repairs into a car that only cost $5,000. I paid the extra $1,000 for the warranty to have a $0 deductible. So I have until 100,000 miles that I shouldn't have to pay a penny if anything goes wrong with this car. (Which my luck, nothing will go wrong with it until 100,001 miles. Then the whole car's probably going to die and not be recoverable.

[bermis519]

My 2000 impala has the 3.4 liter. I don't believe that GM put more effort into their cars because they where focusing more on their SUVs. I know they have strict guidelines they have to follow from MDOT and all kinds of companies. I don't believe it also for the fear of a recall because of something that was fucked up. My warranty, well i was talked out of the 0 deductible also. The tried to get me to pay the 1000 deductible....i was very firm and told them i wanted to zero deductible. Well after he went through the fine print of it. It sounded all right....i paid like 2114 bucks and the warranty company was Tech Pro. Well after getting all this crap fixed i was finding my self still paying money because of stuff the warranty wouldn't pay for. I remember having to get the caliper replaced because of a clunking sound, later found out that it didn't need replaced. Well the warranty would cover the caliper, but not the bracket that the caliper it attached to. I asked them why that bracket had to be replaced, he didn't know...go figure. Well after replacing the caliper, the noise was still there....well they ended up replacing the lower control arms and it seems to be fine...

The thing that pisses me off the most is the repeated trips to the dealership, the ungodly prices they want to fix something. Then after complaining about the price...they look at me like 800 bucks is nothing and that i'm just crazy. I have had 7 rental cars in the two year time. I have yet to pay under 250 bucks to have something fixed. The warranty is starting to slack because they have paid about 4 times the amount of what i paid them, the 2114 to fix it. I have been stranded three times. The thing that really pisses me off is being with out my car for a day or two. For me it's like a security thing, i dunno why, but i feel lost without it. I really don't know what to do now, i have gone rounds with chevy with no luck, and i have gone back to the dealership i don't know how many times to bitch.

That salesman you bought the car from seems to wanna be your best friend, after you buy the car, he probably dont' remember your name, and when he sees you come in he darts off into an office to hide.

I think they need to quit the car bombs over in iraq and come over here and start blowing up the car dealerships...lol...i probably should have said that, but thats how i feel....i dunno...i just feel that i'm rambling on.............

At the police department I work at, we have 2 impalas and 3 crown vics. The impalas have been in repeated times for stupid things. Both have been in for transmission work at least 2 times or more. At this point they just sit there. I use to go out in them. But they are cramped, they are front wheel drive and when i go to chase a speeder and stomp on it, the motor is so loud i fear that i'm going to blow the motor. But in a ford, oh man...stomp it to the floor and it's gone, and when i'm pushing the limits on the ford, the motor sounds pretty confident and doesn't have a problem. I dont' think chevy put a lot of thought into their police impalas. I think it was a last ditch effort to keep in the law enforcement world. Why do you think it's so easy to find a police packaged impala with low miles??? No body likes them!!! One of out ford's has over 200,000 miles on it and it's still a good car....i bet you can't get a police packaged impala to last that long....i know for a fact that the police packaged crown vics have a lot of thought into them, because the michigan state police and the ford motor company in flint michigan and in detroit, near where i live work very closely together to make the best crown victoria and make it very versatile.


the cown vic is one of the reasons that i am leaning towards them. I believe the only problem for has the people to like them is because for is so damn popular and they have millions of cars out in there and thats more feedback as far as complaints. Just think about that...

well let me know what you guys think....i put a lot of thought into this post....

mike

[MCO_Death]

Originally Posted by bermis519

At the police department I work at, we have 2 impalas and 3 crown vics. The impalas have been in repeated times for stupid things. Both have been in for transmission work at least 2 times or more. At this point they just sit there. I use to go out in them. But they are cramped, they are front wheel drive and when i go to chase a speeder and stomp on it, the motor is so loud i fear that i'm going to blow the motor. But in a ford, oh man...stomp it to the floor and it's gone, and when i'm pushing the limits on the ford, the motor sounds pretty confident and doesn't have a problem. I dont' think chevy put a lot of thought into their police impalas. I think it was a last ditch effort to keep in the law enforcement world. Why do you think it's so easy to find a police packaged impala with low miles??? No body likes them!!! One of out ford's has over 200,000 miles on it and it's still a good car....i bet you can't get a police packaged impala to last that long....i know for a fact that the police packaged crown vics have a lot of thought into them, because the michigan state police and the ford motor company in flint michigan and in detroit, near where i live work very closely together to make the best crown victoria and make it very versatile.

First off, I am a fan of the Crown Vic, its a 'Old-Style' car that has been perfected over many many years of development. Ford stuck with what was good for that sort of a car when GM didn't. No argument there.

The Impala's seem hit and miss, My police packaged Imp has 160k on the clock, Just replaced the Tranny, it was still working, more of a pre-emptive repair so I didn't have to think about being stranded someday. I'd say 160k miles of hard use, that tranny held well.

GM did make the Impala a last ditch entry into the law world. Their trucks are far better police vehicles. I can't imagine the milage the Michigan State Police has put on the trucks they have. Always seem them around, always driving, almost as often as the Crown Vics. I didn't even know they had any Impala's in use

If the dealership has been making you pay for "x-whats-wrong-with-it" Have you tried getting quotes from local shops for the same repairs. The only thing i've ever had cheapers at the Chevy Dealer was the transmission (Which came with a 3 year warrenty). It also does well having mechanic's as friends sometimes.

Don't know what else to tell you, other than stick with it, you've put enough time, money and energy into the car at this point.