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actually 325 is not the highest horsepower rating camaro/firebird has, and the ws6 is not the most powerful f body.
also if you look at dyno sheets of ls1's you will notice their actual RWHP is very close to claimed factory numbers, where as other cars like the 240sx have a lot of drvietrain loss to factor in, chevy DOES rate some engines lower then their output throughout history. I know of a stock z06 running 12.2 in the 1/4 and a stock LT5 ZR1 running 12.1 fuckin insane! yes I got videos to prove it too lmao again if you can control the launch and still be fast you can get some incredible times in high hp vettes and camaros also for 10k i could smoke your 12 second ls-vtec with a ls1....... 6500 for a 98 Trans Am LS1 automatic..... that leaves me with 3500 for headers, intake, exhaust, cam, roller rockers... which would leave me in the neighoorhood of above 400rwhp.... don't forget a pair of drag radials |
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Re: S14 VS Camaro SS
American V8s are hands down the cheapest way to make a car go fast in drag racing. SR20power is right, z28's are rated at 290 rwhp stock, chevy lists them at 305 bhp b/c they want lower insurance for the owners. an SS and ws6 probably have around 305-310 rwhp. Then with forced induction, will blow anything out of the water. This is a fact, of course I don't like it either but it's reality. Of couse no F-body can take on a 240 on back roads, drifting, auto-xing, or grip racing
. I knew someone with a trans am that had a mildly modded suspension (had everything pretty much) and said his 240 with stock suspension was still more nimble and handled better on back roads.
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I'll vouch for that statement, I drove a 2001 WS6 6 speed before and I think a 130,000 mile 240sx s13 hatch on regular tires handles better.
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Re: S14 VS Camaro SS
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i've seen a "stock" ws6 run a 13.0. ahhhh, no. it wasn't stock. its called a "SLEEPER". i've also raced a "stock" 5.0 with a bpipe and intake. raced him... he pulled by 6 cars. he told me it runs a 11.8 afterwards. his engine bay looked completely stock. don't you have any common sense... a car can be fast unknowingly even if the owner tells you its stock.
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Thankyou Mynismo. I'm glad some people have sense here. I don't want to be mean, but you need slicks, or drag radials to even think of running a 12.2 in a Z06. They just won't do it stock. When I say stock I mean factory tires. If you say these cars are stock that are running these spectacular times, then why can't professional drivers testing them get these numbers. I guess you're saying that amateur guys like us are better drivers than people who race for a living. And of course I know Chevy underates their cars. Everyone knows that. The perfect example is the 1969 ZL1 that had an all aluminum 427ci motor rated at like 430hp or something. The real number for that was over 520hp. But the differences aren't tha big anymore.
Last edited by S13wanabe; 12-05-2004 at 12:14 AM. |
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Re: S14 VS Camaro SS
well, i know the one that smoke me was LIGHTLY moded.... but again, i suck at the /4 mile. i never figur it out.
Dude: gas it on the 3rd yellow light!! me: uhhhh......ist't that cheating? LOL
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That's common knowledge for drag racig. It eliminates any time it takes you to think about, and then react to the green. You basically go on the third yellow and reaction times will be better. Fun stuff. I learned that the hard way too.
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ok ok I take it back, shit its not 12.1.. that was for the ZR-1 with the LT5 DOHC v8
the record for a 100% stock z06 in the 1/4 mile is....... hold your breath 11.781 @ 117.59 http://forums.corvetteforum.com/arch.../t-855116.html and yes Im saying that some CAR OWNERS can drive THEIR PERSONAL CAR better then some "professional"(what exactly makes them a professional?) magazine tester who fired up the car and their first ever pass in the car is what everyone takes for granted as what it can do... Go take your car in the same exact form go every time for a year and race all night long... keep on practicing and practicing sooner or later you will probably pull off a really fast time that people won't believe? why? practice come on now lets be fair, is your first ever pass at a drag strip your fastest? |
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Re: S14 VS Camaro SS
my 1st pass i stalled ! that suked, thy got it on vdio too!
anyways 11.78 wtf? that is fast! stock?! omg! i will ever mess with one !
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Re: S14 VS Camaro SS
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someone is a loser who looks up times online and posts them in other forums ooooooooooooooooooooo
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No I consider a professional driver as someone who professionally races for a living. No bone stock Z06 can run a 1/4 mile that fast. I freaking love that car, but it's not that fast. Practice will not make the car that fast, mods will. The specs that you show for the ZR-1 are accurate for the Lingenfelter ZR-1. That Corvette ran low 12's. However, that car was a Lingenfelter tuned ZR-1. Big difference from a normal one.
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Re: S14 VS Camaro SS
seriously how does a time slip show it's stock?
The point of this thread has been lost due to those in busted cars wanting a f0' shizzle my nizzle SS go girls go!
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I smell jealousy here
thats what the guy said, 100% stock original type and size tires.... sometimes you just have to trust people are honest... mark how do we really know your car has 240rwhp or runs a 13. whatever? you could be lieing too, maybe it ran a 15.3......... wouldn't be suprised after seeing your drag racing skills on video lol.... I don't see how running a high 11 would be impossible, some of those cars are over 400hp, fairly light, and do have some big tires stock.... shit if a 240sx had 400hp with a LSD and wide ass tires I wouldn't doubt it running 11's.... lets also not forget z06 owners are usually a little bit older and probably can drag race cars better then all of us sounds like some nissan 4 bangers are pissed they got their asses handed to them a couple times by Chevies and pushrods.... also how does showing evidence to back my statement make me a loser? more or less makes me right.... |
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Re: S14 VS Camaro SS
SR20DET, there is nothing of jealousy here...just replies to the chronically retarded.
1) most magazines don't just blast off one 1/4 mile and be done with it. They make a couple passes and get an average or a best. 2) like I said before a timeslip is not an indicator of what's under the hood and have you been to a track many times on test and tune night? 1/2 the track is running 'stock' but dropping 3-4 seconds off the 'stock' 1/4 mile time....it's called bullshit my friend. No stock Z06 will turn that time...especially adjusted. Just because you have a boner for a car doesn't mean that bends the laws of physics.
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Re: S14 VS Camaro SS
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