Game Called Due to Brawl

[TexasF355F1]

Originally Posted by Gotti

so what would you do if somebody threw a beer in your face? Thank them?

First of all I would have never ran into the stands in the first place. Secondly. It's liquid, its not gonna hurt. He deserved he was attacking somebody so somebody threw drink in his face. No fan deserved to get hit or attacked. Athletes like those who fought with the fans need to step down off their high horse. Quit taking their roids and become sensible that its just a fucking game. Yes you're going to get pissed at certain things, but all athletes need to have some sort of self control. I think it should be something required by all sports.

Unless blatently attacked by a fan, no athelete should find the need to throw a punch. It just shows a lack of class. After seeing Artests' actions he's in the lowest of the low in terms of class.

[imtheoneandonlyD]

Originally Posted by TexasF355F1

First of all I would have never ran into the stands in the first place. Secondly. It's liquid, its not gonna hurt. He deserved he was attacking somebody so somebody threw drink in his face. No fan deserved to get hit or attacked. Athletes like those who fought with the fans need to step down off their high horse. Quit taking their roids and become sensible that its just a fucking game. Yes you're going to get pissed at certain things, but all athletes need to have some sort of self control. I think it should be something required by all sports.

Unless blatently attacked by a fan, no athelete should find the need to throw a punch. It just shows a lack of class. After seeing Artests' actions he's in the lowest of the low in terms of class.

in watching it, he walked AWAY from ben wallace and was sitting on the announcers table when he had a beer thrown at him, not attacking someone.

Not to mention i guarentee if i chucked a beer at your for just sitting there you wouldnt just look at me.

[Gotti]

Originally Posted by TexasF355F1

First of all I would have never ran into the stands in the first place. Secondly. It's liquid, its not gonna hurt. He deserved he was attacking somebody so somebody threw drink in his face. No fan deserved to get hit or attacked. Athletes like those who fought with the fans need to step down off their high horse. Quit taking their roids and become sensible that its just a fucking game. Yes you're going to get pissed at certain things, but all athletes need to have some sort of self control. I think it should be something required by all sports.

step down off their high horse?! It has NOTHING to do with him being an athlete or that its just a game, its about disrespect. I dont even think you saw the video cause Artest wasnt attacking anybody when the drink was thrown. He was laying on the table relaxing when some stupid fuck throws a full beer at his face.

If somebody throws a full beer at my face i dont give a fuck who they are, they will get knocked.... now back to the original question, what would YOU do if somebody threw a full beer in your face. Just stand there and do nothing about it? Cause i'd feel my blood boiling at that point

[chevydrummer76]

In the paper it was saying that Artest was yellin at the guy "did you do it" when he was attacking him, and the guy said "no man it wasnt me".

I think it was one of the guy buddies that stepped aside and let the goofy dude in the glasses take the blame.

[TexasF355F1]

Originally Posted by Gotti

step down off their high horse?! It has NOTHING to do with him being an athlete or that its just a game, its about disrespect. I dont even think you saw the video cause Artest wasnt attacking anybody when the drink was thrown. He was laying on the table relaxing when some stupid fuck throws a full beer at his face.

If somebody throws a full beer at my face i dont give a fuck who they are, they will get knocked.... now back to the original question, what would YOU do if somebody threw a full beer in your face. Just stand there and do nothing about it? Cause i'd feel my blood boiling at that point

Granted the fan should have never thrown anything. Fans need to have just as much control over their actions as the players do. I dont know what video you watched, but I saw Artest run into the stands start hitting a fan with other fans trying to hold him back, and then get beer thrown on him and then try and go after the other guy once he was back on the court. In no way shape or form should any athlete go into the stands, nor should any fan go onto the court or field. Provoked or not.

Athletes have to realize they have thousands of kids who watch them, mimic them, and look up to them in many ways. It shows bad judgement of character when players or fans cross that line.

To answer your question about beer being thrown in my face. I can't give an honest answer b/c it would depend on the situation and my state of mind at the time. I'm not a violent person and its not in my DNA to get bent out shape very often. I'm an easy going guy. When I do I can get very angry and start throwing fists i'm already usually in a bad mood and the smallest thing can set me off. But if I were an athlete I would set precedent and turn the other cheek. Players really need to check their egos at the door and swallow their pride. Learn to make good judgements instead of bad ones.

Now Artest has the next 7 months to think about his actions and hopefully get some anger management. Hopefully the others will do that same.

[Raz_Kaz]

Detroit fans got what they deserved. Remember that thread a while back about some 18 year old beating a 16 year old because he mooned him and his mother while the kid was on the bus? Same sort of thing here...it's disrespect, all his friends and family is watching him being disrespected in front of millions, he had the right to be mad. The way he handled it was unprefessional but that's beside the point.

Being suspended for the entire season is just gay. And about Artest asking a month off for promoting his rap album was a sham, go research the real reason beind it (hint: it has something to do with his knee).

Just for those who want to know, nobody has been charged yet but they are still looking for the dumbass fan who threw a chair, that fucker can face up to 4 years.

[Gotti]

Originally Posted by TexasF355F1

Granted the fan should have never thrown anything. Fans need to have just as much control over their actions as the players do. I dont know what video you watched, but I saw Artest run into the stands start hitting a fan with other fans trying to hold him back, and then get beer thrown on him and then try and go after the other guy once he was back on the court. In no way shape or form should any athlete go into the stands, nor should any fan go onto the court or field. Provoked or not.

watch the video again... you missed the beginning when artest is laying down, thats what started it all.


and he shouldnt of bin suspended for the whole season... Stern's an asshole

[chevydrummer76]

Originally Posted by Raz_Kaz

Detroit fans got what they deserved. Remember that thread a while back about some 18 year old beating a 16 year old because he mooned him and his mother while the kid was on the bus? Same sort of thing here...it's disrespect, all his friends and family is watching him being disrespected in front of millions, he had the right to be mad. The way he handled it was unprefessional but that's beside the point.

Being suspended for the entire season is just gay. And about Artest asking a month off for promoting his rap album was a sham, go research the real reason beind it (hint: it has something to do with his knee).

Just for those who want to know, nobody has been charged yet but they are still looking for the dumbass fan who threw a chair, that fucker can face up to 4 years.

man i missed that thread

[imtheoneandonlyD]

yeah, Texas maybe you should actually watch the clip of how everything went down. Artest fouled wallace and then wallace shoved artest who walked away. He then went and sat on the announcers table when someone threw the full beer at him.

know the facts and real story.

[kublah]

Originally Posted by Raz_Kaz

it's disrespect, all his friends and family is watching him being disrespected in front of millions, he had the right to be mad. The way he handled it was unprefessional but that's beside the point.

I don't think his unprofessional actions are beside the point at all. Yes of course he had a right to be mad, but when you are a professional you have more than just your own dignity in the eyes of your friends to keep in mind. Now his whole team is suffering and there are a bunch of disillusioned fans out there that see this as a blemish on the face of the entire game, not just one player.

When Artest ran into the crowd swinging, he wasn't thinking about the inevitable end result of what he was doing, only that there was no way he was going to take such a cheap shot from someone so lowly as the common fan.

People can ask "What would you do if someone threw a beer in your face?", and it seems like lots of people think they'd knock the guy out. If you were two random people in a bar that might be the case. But imagine if you were at work, doing your job, and someone you work with or a customer did the something like that to you. Would you flip out and start throwing punches? Not if you wanted to keep your job you wouldn't.

Ron Artest was at work, doing his job, representing not only himself but his Team, the NBA, and the image of the game as a whole. When he chose to disregard all this and make it personal matter, he made his own fate.

[TexasF355F1]

Watched several versions I found on google. I see a cup or bottle hit Artest and then him rush the stands. I dont see him getting a face full of beer until he's in the stands. I'm not trying to make an arugment about this. I still say he should have never ran into the stands. I mean the first kid he wen after looked like he was 13.

[Gotti]

Originally Posted by kublah

People can ask "What would you do if someone threw a beer in your face?", and it seems like lots of people think they'd knock the guy out. If you were two random people in a bar that might be the case. But imagine if you were at work, doing your job, and someone you work with or a customer did the something like that to you. Would you flip out and start throwing punches? Not if you wanted to keep your job you wouldn't.

still would of done it....

*imagines another employee throwing big gulp at my head*

yep.... and the boss would know i didnt start it atleast

i dont care what anyone else would do, but i cant turn the other cheek if somebody disrespects me like that. I dont care what happens aslong as i stand up for myself

[Raz_Kaz]

Artest is appealing the suspension...hopefully they will shorten the suspension period

[carnut]

PROFESSIONAL sports is becoming nothing more than overpaid school yard players who are only good at playing around.......Just take the Kobe Bryant case.................and now this. Then, to top it off, someone had to ask Charles Barkley for his comments.

[Robs71Nova]

I personally think its all about the money. If I were getting paid the kind of amounts that these players are making, I personally would have NO PROBLEM taking a beer in the face from a fan and walking away, but thats just me and Ron Artest is a hot-headed nutjob. I personally think the fan was taking up for Ben Wallace. Ron artest made a "hard" foul with the game totally out of reach then got pushed in the face for it. After that he went to the announcer's table and started doing sit-ups in an almost mocking way. I personally think he deserves every bit of the suspension he recieved. Even though he got the beverage thrown at him , HE is the one that took it to the stands and encited the all out brawl that came afterwards. If the season long ban holds up for Artest he stands to lose in the neighborhood of 6.5 million dollars and for all the suspensions I believe its around 10 million dollars.. thats one VERY expensive beer.


Rob