Skylines

[TatII]

there was only one time in the best motoring video international where the nsx had beaten the skyline. and that was at the suzuka track and it was a scorching day. plus in every other best motoring international video where they were racing in the sugo. the gt-r always spanks the nsx. on every corner. it has better braking. why do you think they always praise the skyline for its braking? the skyline is slower int he straights but can easily catch up on the corners. and the nsx isn't exactly light either. it weights at around 3200lbs. plus it gets tooo tail happy. no traction. when you push a gt-r harder, it will actually drive faster. thats exactly what rhys millen said (us pikes peak hill climbing champ) he paced the gt-r a whole 2 seconds faster then the nsx. its in the december issue of sports compact car where it has a brilliant blue stock R34 on the cover. plus if you watch all the best motoring international translated in english. from issue 01 to 03. the gt-r spanked the nsx. soooooo bad. don't believe me? watch them. also in the super battle 2000 when they had the F40, F50, F355, lambourgini, GT2, GT3, and guess what car represented japan? not the nsx, it woudln'vbe gotten murdered even worse thent he GT-R did. atleast the GT-R almost beat the F355. plus honda makes the nsx's brakes. the gt-r has brembo brakes. it has even better brakin then the 420hp porches 996 turbo. it also has air channels underneth the entire car with it carbon fiber under tray. sooo it gets enough cooling.

[RiceRocket]

i saw those vids' but best motoring seems to be more pro-honda than anything..

[tazdev]

As for GTR's being moded to +1000 Hp these cars DO exist one was brought down from Japan to New Zealand for a top speed test.

The car was dynoed putting out 1350 hp (at the drive shafts) and went on to record two runs averaging 341.3 KPH over two runs in opposite directions On a WET road.

The car featured HKS forged pistons and crankshaft. Veislide conrods, valves, valve springs, camshafts and fuel rail.

All this in a car that is road registered in Japan


I'd like to see an NSX do that in the wet:finger:

[tazdev]

There is also an R32 here in N.Z. putting out 1028 HP which places it as New Zealands highest powered import (but still not the fastest )

The fastest is an R32 GTR which runs the 1/4 mile in 9.4 seconds and still seems to be getting quicker.

I feel sorry for all you poor people in the states that don't have easy access to the GTR, that is why you think their overhyped, YOUR JELOUS:frog:

[RazorGTR]

I have read this with quite a bit if ammusment. As simon has pointed out it seems those who are yacking away at overhype are the same people who have never have:

A. Never driven one.
B. Never been in one.
C. Never owned one.
D. Never been shit all over by one.

I have owned 3 different Skylines including my newest one a 1992 R32 GTR. I have owned many V8's when I lived in the States, including a 1,400 hp drag car. I have also been in two different Vipers none of which impressed me as much as a ride in a 850 hp GTR. The drag and the GTR race car acclerated nearly identical, yet the GTR can happily go around corners where the drag car couldn't.

For those doubters HKS's R33 drag car has produced 1,568 hp at all four wheels on a hub dyno, and has run 7.46 in the 1/4 mile. It still can go around corners as the rear diff and front diffs are not spooled or locked.

The GTR is not mightest of all, yet they are fun to drive.

Oh and for the record I have already shit all over a 1999 NSX that had a fair bit done to it. I have also done every V8 that has challanged me. That is real.

So if you fall into the 4 catigories up top then maybe you should get your ass into a GTR before you make assumptions and comments on a car you have no idea about.

[NB8CT]

Originally posted by Razorgtst
Oh and for the record I have already shit all over a 1999 NSX that had a fair bit done to it. I have also done every V8 that has challanged me. That is real.

Was that in a straight line, or on a road track? I just cant accept that with a NSX and a GTR with identical hp numbers, for the GTR to come out the winner. I mean the R34s in JGTC are not 4WD, they are converted to RWD.

-Rob

[RiceRocket]

Originally posted by NB8CT


Was that in a straight line, or on a road track? I just cant accept that with a NSX and a GTR with identical hp numbers, for the GTR to come out the winner. I mean the R34s in JGTC are not 4WD, they are converted to RWD.

-Rob

he said in his sig he had 350Hp so ... way more than the NSX?

[NB8CT]

Yea thats what I mean, it takes a lot to get a NSX to 350hp, we are talking supercharger here. I agree that he could kick the crap out of a NSX with a tuned GTR, I have no doubt in my mind that he could. But were that NSX and the GTR bone stock, I feel that the NSX would have comeout ahead of the GTR.

[TatII]

you want hard facts about the gt-r's power? read the december issue 1999 of sports compact car. where pro racer Rhy's Millen's drove both on a road course. and the gt-r was a whole 2 seconds faster at the track dispite the fact that it was clocked faster at all three points of the track. 4WD would beat any MR. the harder you push the skyline, it would only go faster. the harder you push the nsx, you would only slide around. if you read any sports compact car from then on. they have driven the nsx. and whenever they drive a really high tech car. they would go. this is one of the most high tech cars that we have ever driven. except the gt-r is more high tech. if the nsx was sooo nice they would've mentioned the nsx instead. plus the nsx is faster then the gt-r in teh straight. its the gt-r that would kill it int eh turns. with its better traction and superior braking. plus the stock gt-r puts out around 320hp even though they say it only puts out 280. think bout it. how can a car that weights 3400lb do 0-60 in 4.7 seconds? thats only .2 seconds slower then a evo which weights 500lbs less but supposibly have the same hp.

[R33]

Hi Guys. I first read about the GTR in 1990. I read its exploit and saw its photos. It was awesome! Yes, it was pure hype. But it was one which refuses to go away...and refuses for a long long time. I used to tell my then wife..what a car to own...or even to merely look in the flesh! I am a great fan of cars and was into racing since 1988. The GTR stuck in my mind and although I'd never seen one, what more being in one, the hype stays.
In 1994 I saw a 32 in the flesh, for the first time. And it only served to reinforce my liking for it. I wanted one...and wanted it badly.
In 2000, I bought one. From a "crappy"(by GTR standard) 380 rwhp, I had built it into a 524 awhp with stock bottom end except for the forged pistons. The gearbox, chassis (no reinforcement), shafts etc are all stock. And guess what, I drive it EVERY DAY to and fro work, to meetings around our infamous developing country's traffic. No problem at all! Try driving a Lambo around town in the traffic for 1 hr for comparison!
Yes, it is all hype! But the GTR is living up to all the hypes!! Peace all.

[Neutrino]

Ok everybody keeps talking about over 1000HP cars those are not normal cars they are racers. don't tell me that a skyline over 1000hp is a daily driver because its not. virtually-but not all- any car can get over 1000hp if you have enough money.
and don't tell me that only with minor mods a skyline ca reach that kind of hp because it's bs. it has to be heavilly moded.
so if you whant to compare cars compare something stock or moded but not to an extent where is a racer and has to be fixed avery other day. compare something fast that you can drive very day.that is fun

[RazorGTR]

Hahah you call my GTR tuned ?????? You kill me. All that is done to my car is twin pod filters, and an exhaust system. I am running factory boost of 12psi as there is no boost controller of any sort on my car.

I drive it every day as it is the only car I currently own here in New Zealand.

I beat that NSX first from a dead start and also during a rolling start. Say what you will at the end of the day the NSX is way over rated.

Oh and I certainly have no idea where you clowns get understeer from. I have no problem diving hard into a corner and accelerating very hard out of it. Just remember the GTR is 2wd until you lose traction or the G-Force sensors tell the computer to apply front wheel torque. :finger:

[Gtr2.7L]

I tried to post this morning...but apparently didn't take. Here's what's up with the Skyline hype. The car is the sh*t.
Stop comparing it to the NSX in driveability...that's ridiculous. Track comparisons? How about the Nurburgring....Good enough for you?
Stock R34 on stock tires.....7:59
Stock NSX-R on stock tires.....8:32
Thirty three seconds is an assload when you're talking about a span of 9 minutes.

Anyway...on to the real reason of hype....
It's one of the most technologically advanced cars in the world. AWD as needed, Super Hicas, it's own special blend of traction control, twin turbo....etc. It was designed with racing in mind. All for 40,000USD
Stock 323 HP (280 are dealer numbers....if you knew anything about the GTR, that would be the first thing you would know). Torque nearly matches it at 315 ft-lbs. Another two-thousand dollars in mods (boost controller, intakes, exhaust, and computer) will net you over 400/367 (HP/ft-lbs). I'm getting all these numbers from my experience and the dynos of my friend's and my cars. NISMO pulled 488HP from the wheels on a stock car with the mods I just named (I imagine that would be hard for your run of the mill tuner however...)
There is another American that spent a little over 9000 dollars in mods and has an 850HP car that he drives to work everyday (in Yokohama traffic)
Those 1300HP beasts are still 2.6L blocks although they have reinforced pistons, crank, headgasket, and new camshafts. Those cars are in the neigborhood of 25,000 in mods....but they're drag cars....what do you expect. The ironic part of it....they can still turn, they still handle, although it is a bit degraded, it's still driveable. Top Secret had their 1053HP R33 at Bay Bridge three weeks ago that they drove there. (Their shop is about 40km away). It's registered and all.
The cars really are amazing. I've owned Mustangs, a Lotus, two Camaros and currently own a '67 Vette along with my GTR. Nothing has come close. I driven my friend's Black '95 NSX. Nice car to be in...and people say...oooh an NSX, but I get the same thing in my GTR....and the NSX isn't nearly as fast. Great car...great for mods...not really all that expensive.

[Tom_S8]

I think that most of this hype that is around skyline is because it isn't avaliable in the US or Europe , but it's still an amazing machine , check the TopGear video , where Tiff plays with that computer , it's crazy how many details you can get from it , and it shows the Lateral G and stuff too , and you can download it into your PC , c'mon , is the next skyline going to be driven in virtual reality glasses and with a gamepad...

And no it's not that i don't like it , i would fancy a skyline as hell , but
a) it isn't worth that much
b) this all 1300 or 1600 Hp talk isn't all that , you could get it in any car , it's only about the money... For sure the 4WD helps to deal with it , but again dauer-porsche 962 Le Mans is still the fastest legal road car here in europe , it runs 406 kph (253.67 mph) and it's "only" 850 hp , so it's not all about the HP...

[NSX-R-SSJ20K]

maclaren F1 unrestricted did 260

no rev limiter


thats the fastest car in Europe