new camaro?

[allthrottlenobottl]

what about the TA will it be redubuting with the camaro

[Vlad_Tepes]

Originally Posted by Genopsyde

IRS??? I hate those jerks, taking my money all the time...

DAMN THE MAN!!!!!!!!

[Savage Messiah]

Originally Posted by allthrottlenobottl

what about the TA will it be redubuting with the camaro

All that I've heard and seen says no, Firbird/Trans Am are done.

[CORE402]

According to Pontiac they are NEVER going to make the firebird again. It is too low class for the Pontiac name. Shit it was the only car I liked from Pontiac. The GTO is OK. Pontiac is lame!

[FormulaLT1]

Where did you ever read or hear anyone refer to the Firebird as low class?...

[FormulaLT1]

This is direct from Pontiac head quarter's regarding Gm no longer making the F-body's. No where do I see anything about low class.
Dear Mr. McDonnell,

Thank you for contacting the Pontiac Customer Assistance Center. We
appreciate you taking the time to write us in regards to the
discontinuation of the F-body series of vehicles. Due to the decrease in demand
for the sport segments, this decision was unavoidable.

We apologize for the disappointment expressed in your email and want
you to know that a number of Chevrolet Camaro and Pontiac Firebird owners
and enthusiasts have expressed their fondness for this vehicle.

If you should need to contact us in the future, simply reply to this
message or call our Pontiac Customer Assistance Center at 1-800-762-2737.
Customer Relationship Managers are available Monday through Friday from
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Karen Wardrop
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#Subject=RE: I am a current owner

[CORE402]

Originally Posted by FormulaLT1

Where did you ever read or hear anyone refer to the Firebird as low class?...

OK here it is. On page 31 in the September issuse of Popular Hot Rodding the exact words were, "Ponitiac General Manager Lynn Myers and GM's new product Chairman Bob Lutz seemed to remove all doubt about a Firebird in the future by stating that Pontiac was moving up market as a sort of American version of BMW. This means performance across the board, but also meant a more upscale crowd. Something not exactly represented by the Pontiac Firebird. Even Pontiac's youth-oriented "pass it on" ad campaign was viewed as the wrong direction, and ended up becoming short-lived." The Quote continues and Finishes with a quote from Mr. Lutz stating, "Firebird's day is gone."

[FormulaLT1]

There not calling it low class if you read that correctly they are saying that they are trying to aim there product to a older crowd rather than youthful type sports car.

[CORE402]

Well they are moving up in the market and they are insinuating the Firebird isn't in that high class market. Pretty much stating that it is of a lower class then what they want. There is more to the article but I didn't feel it was necessary to quote to get the idea across. Pontiac feels the Firebird is too low class and it will no longer be made!

[CORE402]

I say screw Pontiac. They are leaving behind their best car ever!

[FormulaLT1]

OK while I do love the Firebird and I hope to own mine forever. 9 times out of 10 when you see one driving down the road its a young adult/teenager driving it. This is the market that they originally aimed the Firebird at. What they are saying is that they are trying to give the "Pontiac" name a more luxury type feel than youthfull sport's car because they are aiming there product to the 30 somthing's and up which usually do have a larger income. It would be the stupidest thing ever and reason to be fired for a GM employee like a Pontiac VP to say the Firebird is low class when they know damn well that Chevy is planning to bring back the Camaro(or the Firebird's sibling) and If you take the fact that most older people have more money and are usually viewed as having more upscale things then yes they are putting down the firebird but I did not come away with that from the comments that where made

[Genopsyde]

why would they want to aim pontiac toward the older crowd? I thought that was what they had Buick for.

[CORE402]

Your opinion is your opinion. When they say that they are looking for a more upscale market and that Firebird isn't going to fit into that that seems to insinuate that the Firebird is just not upscale enough for their future image. They are ditching the younger consumer which bought the Firebird. In my eyes they are turning their backs on the Firebird crowd and saying they are too good for them now.

[FormulaLT1]

I agree just my opinion but if Chevy say's that they discontiued the Camaro cause they wanted to retain the more upscale style sports car feel of the Corvette. I don't think that would be a put down to any Camaro owner, I mean I could be wrong but certain people view price as upscale and thats not really a insult when the car cost's a hell of alot more and is more of a luxury car than a sports car like the GTO when compared to the Firebird even though they have the same platform the GTO is more expensive and is viewed as more of a Luxury/Sporty car than the Firebird's sports car image and thats what they wanted. But I'm not going to tell you how to feel its your opinion but I just don't agree with it

[Lancebav]

Im sorry I just have to agree 150% with Core on this one! Screw Pontiac for turning there back on the Firebird!!!!!!!!!