2005 GTO vs 2004 Corvette/2004 Cobra

[kman10587]

Yeah, the only thing I don't like about the Evo is the transmission/clutch issue, but other than that, it's an awesome car, better than the STi overall IMO.

[Neutrino]

Originally Posted by kman10587

Yeah, the only thing I don't like about the Evo is the transmission/clutch issue, but other than that, it's an awesome car, better than the STi overall IMO.

yeah hopefully the fixed it on the new 05s with the 6 speed and the ACD.

And i do prefer it over the STI too although those new 05 STI are greatly improved.

[kman10587]

Yeah, as much as the STi improved for 05, the Evo MR should still own it.

[kenwood guy]

back on subject the new vette is sure to be a bad ass car but the cobra I would love to see a race between the two

[Jimster]

Originally Posted by PewterTAWS6

Alright i can see i am talking to ignorant import lovers, so flame away because this will be my last post on this ridiculous forum. All i have heard on this forum was nonsense and a lot of good things said about cars that suck. real world ive raced most of these cars, freeway, track, and road, and they arent that great, but enjoy the ricer rockets.
Im outta this place!!!

It doesn't matter if it's built in the USA or Togo mate, if it's a better car, it's a better car. It just so happens these junior rally cars are better than a Corvette in many respects. I'd get into contact with a damn good civil engineering firm if I were you, because that's an awfully big bridge you have to build......

[Sean_S]

Originally Posted by kenwood guy

back on subject the new vette is sure to be a bad ass car but the cobra I would love to see a race between the two

Eh wouldn't be pretty. Sad to say, being a Mustang guy, but the C6 is far beyond what the Cobra is.

[kenwood guy]

O well there both cool cars in my book

[Polygon]

Originally Posted by PewterTAWS6

American Cars have plenty of handling ability. For one the Corvette C6 has a .94 lateral G. And the C5 Corvette had a .90 Lateral G, could be lowered for free, and both have a perfect 50/50 weight distribution. And the corvette ZO6 had a .99-1.00 Lateral G. That is more than the Saleen S7, Ferrari Enzo and many other cars. And the Cobra had a .90 Lateral G.

Here are some handling numbers on some of the most popular foreign cars.

Mazda RX-8: .88G
Lancer Evolution: .88G
WRX STI: .88G
Acura NSX: .91G

All these numbers where provided by Road and Track November 2003 Issue.
So i say, "we lack handling," HA HA HA. All of our performance cars outhandle even all-wheel drive cars.

You need to wake up you bean counting magazine racer.

You've got a lot of numbers there that relate to road holding ability but don't prove how well a car can handle. All those numbers prove is how many Gs the tires can hold in a circle. That does not equate handling. You have to take weight into account, also a perfect 50/50 weight distribution doesn't mean the car will handle well either. You also have to look at slalom speeds, though shorter wheelbase cars do better in the slalom than long wheelbase cars. The best way to find out which car handles better is to take it to the track and see which cars have better lap times. Fifth Gear has done this with the C6 and the Lancer Evo out does it. The C6 also has leaf springs in the back.

Leaf springs?!?!

What in the hell is up with that?

You sir have a lot to learn about cars.

[Sean_S]

Originally Posted by Polygon

You need to wake up you bean counting magazine racer.

Fifth Gear has done this with the C6 and the Lancer Evo out does it. The C6 also has leaf springs in the back.

Leaf springs?!?!

Correction, the FQ320 outdid the C6 in laptimes (by .8 of a second), no other Evolution did. The C6 beat out the FQ300 and the STI WR1.


Here are times so there is no more confusion:

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1 min 19.0 secs - Radical SR3
1 min 19.8 secs - Porsche CGT
1 min 20.9 secs - Mercedes-McLaren SLR
1 min 21.9 secs - Ford GT
1 min 22.3 secs - Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale
1 min 22.3 secs - Porsche 911 GT3 RS
1 min 22.6 secs - Westfield XTR2
1 min 23.7 secs - Lamborghini Murcielago (2nd run)
1 min 23.8 secs - Pagani Zonda C12 S
1 min 23.9 secs - Koenigsegg CC8S
1 min 24.0 secs - Ariel Atom
1 min 25.0 secs - Caterham R400
1 min 25.0 secs - Noble M12 GTO-3
1 min 25.8 secs - Lamborghini Gallardo e-gear (Wet)
1 min 26.0 secs - Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII MR FQ-320
1 min 26.8 secs - Chevrolet Corvette C6
1 min 26.9 secs - Lotus Exige S2 (Wet)
1 min 27.0 secs - TVR T350C
1 min 27.2 secs - Porsche 911 GT3 (Wet)
1 min 27.3 secs - Spyker C8
1 min 28.0 secs - BMW M3 CSL (Dry/Damp)
1 min 28.2 secs - Lotus Elise Sport 190
1 min 28.7 secs - MTM Bimoto
1 min 28.9 secs - Mitsubishi EVO VIII FQ-300
1 min 29.0 secs - Lamborghini Murcielago
1 min 29.0 secs - Mercedes-Benz CL65 AMG
1 min 29.0 secs - BMW Alpina Z8
1 min 29.4 secs - AS One
1 min 29.4 secs - Subaru Impreza WRX STi WR1
1 min 30.1 secs - Subaru Impreza Sti Type UK PPP
1 min 30.4 secs - Aston Martin DB7 GT
1 min 30.9 secs - Audi S4
1 min 31.0 secs - Porsche 911 Turbo (Wet)
1 min 31.3 secs - Vauxhall VX220 Turbo
1 min 31.6 secs - Honda NSX Type-R (Wet)
1 min 31.8 secs - BMW M3
1 min 31.8 secs - Mazda RX-8
1 min 31.8 secs - Nissan 350Z
1 min 32.5 secs - Lotus Esprit
1 min 32.9 secs - Noble M12 GTO (Wet)
1 min 33.2 secs - Mercedes SL 55 AMG (Wet)
1 min 33.2 secs - Honda NSX Type-R (Wet)
1 min 33.3 secs - VW Golf R32
1 min 33.7 secs - MG ZT260
1 min 33.8 secs - Ford Focus RS (32.2secs)
1 min 34.9 secs - Lotus Elise 111S (Wet)
1 min 35.0 secs - Volvo S60R
1 min 35.2 secs - Ferrari 575 Maranello (Wet)
1 min 35.6 secs - Alfa Romeo 147 GTA
1 min 36.2 secs - Aston Martin V12 Vanquish (Wet)
1 min 36.2 secs - Renault Clio V6 MKII (Wet)
1 min 38.0 secs - Maserati 3200GT (Wet)
1 min 38.0 secs - Honda Civic Type R
1 min 39.0 secs - Subaru Impreza WRX
1 min 40.0 secs - Bentley Arnage T (Wet)

[Polygon]

Originally Posted by Sean_S

Correction, the FQ320 outdid the C6 in laptimes (by .8 of a second), no other Evolution did. The C6 beat out the FQ300 and the STI WR1.

AH, sorry I didn't mention that it was the MR. However, my point still stands. He doesn't know what he is talking about. He shows it in every post he makes.

[Sean_S]

Originally Posted by Polygon

AH, sorry I didn't mention that it was the MR. However, my point still stands. He doesn't know what he is talking about. He shows it in every post he makes.

Oh you think? Never occured to me.

[RedLightning]

i read the title and it said gto vs. corvette, but some idiot got us on this subject that will only get this thread closed.

[Polygon]

Originally Posted by Um...Nameless Dork

i read the title and it said gto vs. corvette, but some idiot got us on this subject that will only get this thread closed.

I don't see what there is to debate about that though. I think it is fairly obvious that the Corvette is superior in every way to the GTO.

[RedLightning]

actually i think that the gto is a much better car all around, any ways the corvette(C6) is friggin ugly the gto is only bland.

[Neutrino]

Originally Posted by Polygon

I don't see what there is to debate about that though. I think it is fairly obvious that the Corvette is superior in every way to the GTO.

I would not quite say that since it has a very different purpose. the GTO its a nice luxury sport coupe that can easily sit 4 and its practical.

The vette on the other hand its pure sport.