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Old 10-21-2004, 12:32 AM   #31
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Now we're cookin with gas. I realized that I could just re-select an area then fix what was bugging me.

Here's the top area without the black:



You can see how the black helps tie it all together when I turn that channel on:



Here's the whole thing so far:



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Old 10-21-2004, 08:40 AM   #32
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Re: learning new method

Lol, looks pretty good so far, so one down, how many left to do?
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Old 10-21-2004, 10:23 AM   #33
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Re: learning new method

Actually probably still 4 knowing me.

I may not even use this. (I flip flop more than what's-his-face)

I'm learning a new method though.

Don't worry you won't see all 4.

I told the guys this is for I'd finish soon so I'll probably speed it up. I really wanted to gain a real deep understanding though. If I had blown through it I don't think I would have learned what I did.

Did you know when rendering in channels you can select multiple layers and subtract from all at once? That makes the white highlights a screen printers dream.

Here's another little thing I learned:

Feathering will cause your entire selection to blend out on all sides. This may not always be the desired effect. So feather and then go back in with the air brush or eraser on the expanded selection and eliminate the feather on the other sides which will leave a very smooth and cool blend on one side only. (Thanks Jeri)

That's for Al.

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Old 10-21-2004, 04:08 PM   #34
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Re: learning new method

looks good so far too me.
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Old 10-21-2004, 04:16 PM   #35
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Re: learning new method

Hmm, what's his face...

Sounds familiar:P
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Old 10-21-2004, 08:48 PM   #36
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still goin...almost done....next tip?

Tip #1: Set your channels in print order. In general that would be lightest to darkest. Black is almost always the trap color.

Tip #2: Remember if your vehicle is part of a larger design you might want to do all the lineart for the entire design before you start rendering a car because there's likely to be areas that are not visible and you wouldn't want to render in them. Lucky for me the Ghia is out front so it won't affect me that way, but that's an important thing to remember.

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Old 10-21-2004, 10:51 PM   #37
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done for now..

I'm saving the windshield and trim until I get the whole thing in. I'll probably throw a cool gradient thing across the windshield but I'll want something that goes with the entire design so I'm holding on that.

Overall I'm ok with it. I'm sure I'll do better on the next 3.



Here's the orange alone...coooool



here's how the halftones will look for the film

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the second pic looks cool, the shades. The whole thing looks great.
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Re: learning new method

he hee looks good i think i will read it all tomorow at work as well.
Today i just went true some pics
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Looks very interesting thanx for sharing
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Old 10-25-2004, 07:09 PM   #41
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Re: learning new method

Ok Lemorris I am going to ask this. I did it on accident while rendering the Max Stang.

I was using my pen tool to draw my lines. I then accidentally hit something to change the color of the pen tool path (line). I know how to change my fill colors (closed paths).

How do you change the actual color of the line (when drawing paths)?
Does it have something to do w/ the background and foreground boxes at the bottom of the tool box?

I am re-reading your thread. So you color in PS. Do you draw all the reflections in AI or PS? The VW bus seems to show that you draw reflections in AI, but I couldn't tell w/ the VW car.

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Old 10-25-2004, 07:26 PM   #42
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Re: learning new method

If you use the pen tool to draw the lines it will create a layer. Just double click on the layer box that has color in it it to change. If the layer is already rasterized use a selection tool(magic wand), and then select the colored area. Click the foreground color square and then select a new color. then hit alt+backspace or edit-fill-foreground color.

I make the highlight a nd shadow lines in AI, but I put them on a separate channel with the base lineart. I use that as my selection channel. I make sure all shapes are closed in AI so when I select in PS the selection is contained. I expand that selection by 1 pixel to compensate for the line width and then I fill or air brush the color into the selected shape on the appropriate channel.

In this case you can render the same way in layers, but I'm trying to do the seps for shirts at the same time.

The lineart base and the highlight and shadow areas are defined in AI, but colored in PS.

Remember PS also has a history pallet. You can just step back to the step before you made the mistake and do it over.

-lemorris

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I pick up those Buick shirts tomorrow. The printer said they came out great. I'm very curious to see how well the screen was able to hold the tone. In most screen printing you'll lose dots below 5% and you'll probably experience a 10% dot gain. Basically when the ink goes through the hole it spreads making a lager dot than was intended so when rendering and exporting your film you try to compensate for that. In an ideal world with perfectly consistent conditions you would be able to insure a certain amount of dot consistency, but when things like humidty, pressure, weight, angle, and printer sobriety enter into the picture it becomes hard to define your range.

Fortunatly I deal with a very experienced printer (I used to work there), so I have a good idea where I can come in at.
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Ok I think I got it, all shapes closed, I haven't been doing that, but I will start.

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Ha!! Just when you thought it was safe to bury the post.

Finally get to come back. Here's the renderng as it sits in the channels. All lines haven't been "intersected" becuase I want to render the cars in full on the channels then "intersect".

The halftoned mountain is called "The Sleeping Lady", and once agin it reminds me of growing up in Alaska. I miss seeing it. This design actaully means something to me....'sniff' LOLOL


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Awesome, coming along great! Layout looks cool.
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