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Old 07-22-2004, 02:46 AM
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Re: 3000gt vr4 or 300zx tt

awd throws you off the line like a bat out of hell, thats what it does.
no not all vr4's ran 13.5
91-93 vr4's ran a 13.9 about the same as the 300zxtt. this is cause the vr4 in 91-93 had only 300hp and 305lbs tq

in 94-99 they ran 13.5 some 13.6 and some 13.4 but 13.5 is about the average time they run. sorry if ya don't beleive it because its too heavy. must not be familiar with awd
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Re: 3000gt vr4 or 300zx tt

if you want i'll give you mor and more sites that tell you its 3700lbs
on the site you were looking at they confused things, but if you check it it has the vr4 stats on the left and sl on the right
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awd cars also use up all the power on 2 pair of wheels as oppose to one set of wheels, as far as I can tell. but since i never launched a vr-4 through 1/4 mile, ill take your word for it.

how are its reliability? friend of mine had a Galant, transmission went sour after 26K, and mitsubishi charged like as if it was a Merc. they also refused to use full warranty.
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Re: 3000gt vr4 or 300zx tt

that sucks! well i have 150,000 miles on my car

problems:
synchros
waterpump
timing belt

trannies can give you a problem up high in miles like mine. but its a $800 fix

besides that my car has been running like new.

also the trannies are very strong. there are people with 650-700hp on the stock trannie. its just the synchro's get worn out after a certain amount of time, like 100,000 miles and up
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Question

not to jack the thread, but how are VR-4's compared to Supra Turbos?

0-60 and 1/4 mile for Supra Turbo? I suppose the better handling will go to VR-4's.
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Re: 3000gt vr4 or 300zx tt

well there's a rumor that our cars can't handle very well cause of its weight. so most people will tell you it SUCKS!. but actually it handles very nice anyone who feels the handling on the car will not tell you otherwise.

but i've never driven a supra to know its handling, but i do know that they are pretty even in the 1320. the supra will run ya about a 13.5 as the vr4 will.

i beleive it was r&t that ran them both at 13.6 and the supra had a higher trap speed.
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Re: 3000gt vr4 or 300zx tt

heres a video to show you what a vr4 can do if you got 15 min
99 VR4 vs 911 turbo
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbul...=260081&page=1
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great, Im downloading the vid, any clue for supra turbo's 0-60?

a 300zx tt will do 5.5-5.7 if you dont miss it.

and you tested your VR-4 to do about 5 flat? if so, that's impressive.

as for handling, my N/A feels like it's born for track, it will hug every corner. fast in, fast out. you don't get lagging or the uncontrollable rwd spin. however in the rain, I'll confess, it skidded once or twice, when I kinda floored coming into a turn.
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Re: 3000gt vr4 or 300zx tt

The VR4 handles very well despite it's weight, but I believe the Supra does handle a smudge better. I drove a stock Supra Twin Turbo once with 110K miles on it, and the Supra did feel a smudge slower (my car had around 400HP at the time though) but it felt easier to control in turns and better steering feeling. Still for a stock car with 110K miles, wasn't that bad, wasn't too impressed, but then again I was stepping out of my modified VR4 into a competely stock Supra Twin Turbo. 1/4 Mile times, well my first time ever drag racing my VR4 I ran a 13.94@99MPH (just HKS intake) with 2.0 60FT times, so I believe I could have ran a 13.5 or 13.6 with better launches. The best time I ever got with my BPU VR4 was 13.29@107MPH, ignore the E.T. because I ran that with a crappy 1.9 60FT time but the trap speed suggested 12s. That was just with bolt ons, so the VR4 does respond well to modifications. YoungVR4 what is the best times you have ever got in your VR4?
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i don't think he's takin it to the track...but im not definately sure?

I still appreciate all your help and encouragement, but youngvr4 when i saw those stats it showed 30 grand american for a used one? lol i'm hoping thats wrong cuz thats like 40 grand canadian and i sure as hell dont have that much

i've seen a few 1993 vr4s for about 18 grand CDN, what do you think of this generation of vr4's
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Re: 3000gt vr4 or 300zx tt

lol no, the vr4's are getting really affordable now. not too long ago i seen a 95 vr4 for $13,000 with 65k

i bought mine for $7,200 with 112,000 miles on it.

if your looking for a 99 vr4 in nice condition its gonna cost ya a good $23,000-25,000 grand. mainley cause there so rare..

and no i haven't takin it to the track yet. once my car gets fixed i'll give it a run or 2. but i'm trying to cut back on the abuse of my car.
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yea I'm looking to get one for about 15 grand canadian, i just want a nice looking vr4 with little mileage on it...btw what year is yours?

i heard launching with awd fucks up the tranny/clutch a lot, whats your input on this?
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Re: 3000gt vr4 or 300zx tt

the 91-93 is the first generation 3000gt. the vr4 came with 300hp and 305ft-lbs. pretty fast car. but if you want the fastest VR4 get the 94-99. 320hp and 315ft-lbs.
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Re: 3000gt vr4 or 300zx tt

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yea I'm looking to get one for about 15 grand canadian, i just want a nice looking vr4 with little mileage on it...btw what year is yours?

i heard launching with awd fucks up the tranny/clutch a lot, whats your input on this?
Never had any trouble with my clutch when I had my VR4 and I launched it a pretty decent amount of times. I have heard others who have had some issues, but I believe the stock clutch on the VR4 is much more durable and can hold more power than say the 2003-2004 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution clutch. Yet all AWD cars put more stress on the drivetrain than 2WD cars, it's a fact of life. Yet the problems are not as big on some AWD cars as it is on others. If you are worried about the clutch, then I suggest upgrading it, it will help out very much in the long run especially if your planning to seriously modify the car.
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Re: 3000gt vr4 or 300zx tt

clutch in the vr4 is just fine but depending on how many times you launch depends on how long it will last. i abused the hell out of my car and it went out.
i then got a racing clutch and the diff is amazing. a clutch upgrade in these cars helps a lot.

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