I want midrange tourque

[91civichatch2571]

Originally Posted by Posey88cvic4dr

go with the B18 and then throw on like 2 bolt ons/mods and you should be able to take the B16's with no problem.... same with the ZC

For some reason my zc isnt taking b16's with no problem. I have i/h/e/tb/im. hmm..

[PunkAlex]

RPM's make the horsepower, which is why the b16 has such a high rating! Sure it has 160hp but you have to be way the fuck up in the rpms to get it! the ls motor usually rapes a b16 off the line and through 2nd cause it takes so damned long for the b16 to get in the ideal engine speed.

[optimuscivic]

Originally Posted by travagliante

WTF: You can get a lot of torque out of 4 cylinders. Just requires more $money$ and work!

nice post captain obvious.

[Ace$nyper]

Originally Posted by SiZ

OOOH! Someone with a slight understanding!

HORSEPOWER IS TORQUE!

sadly I thought ppl knew that.

[90civicracer]

Originally Posted by SiZ

And parrots repeat everything they hear.

If you had any idea what the fuck you were talking about you'd realize what an idiotic statement that is.

I meant it as more of a joke, sorry if I pissed anyone off during the process of that, geez.

[crxlvr]

Guys, isnt HP just Torque multiplied by the RPM??

[SiZ]

Right. Torque is the only measureable variable on the engine.. I forget the exact equation, its something like HP=TQ X 1212 or something crazy like that.. If I could find it, I would show it.

[Cjz89civic]

Originally Posted by TheSilentChamber

My torque:



Humm... its not a V8 and its a two door hatch... is it considered sport compact?

Hmm looks like the engine is going to blow its smoking alot hurry turn it off. Thats UGLY as hell and if it was an import Id sell mine, but the My 1st amendment right freedom of speach and to state my opinion.

[travagliante]

Originally Posted by optimuscivic

nice post captain obvious.

kindof a country redneck kindof voice deep.

AHH. Thank you... Thank you very much






Wtf??? ur problem he basically said you cant get any torque out of a 4 cyl. and i basically said he can with some $. I dont see the problem here!

[travagliante]

Originally Posted by Cjz89civic

Hmm looks like the engine is going to blow its smoking alot hurry turn it off. Thats UGLY as hell and if it was an import Id sell mine, but the My 1st amendment right freedom of speach and to state my opinion.

Hey isnt that the car in dude wheres my car???


What movie is that in, i know ive seen it somewhere!

[crxlvr]

looks like the Wayne's World Mobile, a Gremlin.

[SiZ]

Here's the info I was looking for:

Horsepower (by itself) is NOT a measure of power transmitted through
the crankshaft -- torque is. A higher HP number does NOT automatically
translate into higher torque (your sportscar examples are roughly
equivalent to the HP rating of a semi tractor -- which one produces
more torque?). HP does indicate how fast a particular class of engine
can rev and still produce power before it starts to stumble all over
itself.

Remember: Horsepower is calculated: Torque x RPM's / 5252. This is the
exact same formula used by every engine manufacturer (has to be, or
else you couldn't compare one to another).

Notice that Torque can be measured idependently of HP. RPM's can be
measured independently of HP. Horsepower can not be calculated without
both Torque and RPM's.

In other words: a HP rating without either the RPM's or Torque at
which it was calculated is relatively useless.

The highest PRV HP rating I've found to date is a non-consumer Renault
Le Mans racing application. (I should have clarified my HP statement:
You're going to be hard pressed to get much more than 250 HP in a 3
liter production engine). It did put out something like 400 HP at 7000
RPM. But do the math -- that's only 300 Ft Lbs of Torque. Production
American big blocks have always exerted more.

The common misconception is that ""horsepower"" somehow translates into a
an imaginary ""number of horses"" hitched to the front of your car
pulling it like a wagon. The obvious flaw with that vision is it
neither tells you how big the horses are nor how fast they are moving.
6 Clydesdales at a steady gait will outperform a dozen galloping
circus ponies every time. I guarantee it.

I like to raise uninitiated eyebrows with the locomotives my employer
used for many decades (electric traction motors I know, but the shock
value is the same). 600 max HP. Doesn't sound like much, does it? But
they produced that at 700 RPM's. In other words, they exerted more
than 4,500 Ft Lbs of Torque. That generates more than enough
electricity to pull 5 1/4 *MILLION* lbs of freight. Could your
similarly rated Lambourgini Diablo (550 HP) do the same? Of course it
couldn't, but a person comparing only Horsepower numbers would never
know that, would he? (Our railroad now uses bigger 1,500 HP units that
spin closer to 900 RPM)

[civicHBsi91]

bla bla bla b16's suck

No but I can just go off my experiences and times and they seem to be even or they surpass the the times of b16 powered cars with same or more mod's

I dont know why people say the top end suck's I have pulled many b16 powered car's up top.

Ok well i have a buddy with an obd0 b18a with I/E in his hatch and I have raced him from a 2nd gear roll, we stay about dead even. I inch on him during shift's but it's minimal because he isnt the greatest driver and he just started with a stick.

Now when i raced the b16 powered crx with I/H/E from a 2nd gear roll I pulled on him instantly everytime, we raced a good 3-4 times.

I can just go off experience and the b18 out perform's the b16 in alot of cases.

I wish I could do more of a comparison with gsr powered hatch's too but my buddy wont race me.

[travagliante]

Originally Posted by SiZ

Here's the info I was looking for:

i knew it It was in the FAQ!!!!

[TheSilentChamber]

Originally Posted by Cjz89civic

Hmm looks like the engine is going to blow its smoking alot hurry turn it off. Thats UGLY as hell and if it was an import Id sell mine, but the My 1st amendment right freedom of speach and to state my opinion.

Yeah freedom of speech is great. Accually thats one of my prodject cars. 77 AMC Gremlin-X. It hasnt been in any movies. Waynes world and dude wheres my car were both pacers I believe. Its not the prettyest thing, but it will definatly hold its own on the streets and has alot of sentimental value (was my fathers before he passed away). Its powered by a 258 (thats 4.2 liter) inline 6. Currently puts out around 250hp and 350ft/lbs torque. Its going to be supercharged one of these days, but its on the back burner now because I baught a 88 Civic 2dr hatch.