Do you tip ? - Page 3

whttrshpunk · #31 01-11-2002, 10:50 AM

:insert $10 or $20 into a glass:
This is the tip glass, this is my drinking glass, when this gets empty(shake drinking glass), THIS, gets empty(shake tip glass for dramatic effect)

RevHappy Cowgirl® · #32 01-11-2002, 04:34 PM

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Originally posted by primera man
Looks like i'm going to disagree with you all. I never leave a tip and never will. They are paid to do there job already so i'm not paying them anymore then i have to.

No one gives me a tip at work if i do anything good.

PMan goes and runs for cover and waits for replys

Well, as strange as I find that logic of yours is, I understand that Europeans and Aussies/Kiwis runs on a different system, I did tip though even when I'm traveling, I think most of them kinda expect tips from tourists, that and I just feel guilty if I don't tip since I do so at home

taranaki · #33 01-11-2002, 05:56 PM

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Originally posted by RevHappy Cowgirl®

Well, as strange as I find that logic of yours is, I understand that Europeans and Aussies/Kiwis runs on a different system, I did tip though even when I'm traveling, I think most of them kinda expect tips from tourists, that and I just feel guilty if I don't tip since I do so at home

Sadly, the tourists who tip are effectively damaging what I think is a very honest system in NZ.When I worked in an hotel in England, the wages were pretty shitty and you basically did well or did without depending on your tips.The management knew that they could pay peanuts and not have to bother with training or supervision,if you didn't work well,you got no tips,you couldn't afford to stay.In New Zealand,the service staff are much better trained and better paid,you are expected to do your job well as part of your conditions of employment.In other words,it's the same as any other industry.Like P-Man said,I don't get a tip at work if I do a good job.I work in a factory,if I don't do a good job,I will probably get fired.P-Man works in a loco repair shed........I can't see anybody sending him a tip simply because he did what he got paid for and the train got to its destination as a result.........

RazorGTR · #34 01-11-2002, 06:02 PM

Taranaki I knew a few waitresses back in the states and the pay per hour is shocking ! Most were making $3-6 per hour plus tips, which out of that tip they had to share a percentage with the bus boy who clears the tables.

taranaki · #35 01-11-2002, 06:17 PM

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Originally posted by Razorgtst
Taranaki I knew a few waitresses back in the states and the pay per hour is shocking ! Most were making $3-6 per hour plus tips, which out of that tip they had to share a percentage with the bus boy who clears the tables.

exactly my point.......It's o.k. to tip in the States,the wage structure is set up that way.Over here,people get a good pay check anyway,so tipping is not really justified ,and it is fair to expect good service as part of what you pay for.

RazorGTR · #36 01-11-2002, 06:20 PM

That is so true. Considering the average pay for them being nearly what a first year fitter turner would make back in the states very well justified and pointed out.

Jimster · #37 01-11-2002, 08:14 PM

The thing that got me when I went to New York was cab drivers expected tips!!!!!!! for the love of god I had already payed my $7.60 fare, I tell them I got nothing left on me and I am called a Scot!!!!!!!!!

That taught me the lesson on the beauty of rental cars

NismoDrifts · #38 01-11-2002, 09:36 PM

I work at a restaurant, so i tip, 20%..........10 if theyre not workin good, 0 if they suck

waitors make like nothing without tips

2001 AE · #39 01-11-2002, 10:54 PM

I always tip and I am a very good tipper with good service, but I don't tip well at all with bad service, but I've only received bad service twice.

ric · #40 01-11-2002, 11:08 PM

everyone in the states, i suggest you work as a server and try to support yourself with the income before you free your mind on your tipping procedure's.

period.

joshmel1 · #41 01-11-2002, 11:35 PM

Ilikenakedgirls: you are correct, I suggest everyone work as a waiter, and see the shit most of us deal with. I am not saying other jobs do not have problems, but most do not have the variety of problems that restaurant employees deal with. As you have probably figured out, I do work in the business, and have since I was 14, and I am now 27. In most states in the U.S. servers make $2.13 an hour, and after declaring the bare minimum of tips(8% of your total sales by law), you basically do not receive a paycheck. AT ALL!! So every nickle I make comes from you.

Now lets say I sell 1000 dollars of food that day. Which is alot more than most restaurants are capable of per server, per day. I by law have to declare 80$ in tips. Which means I am taxed on 80 dollars for that day, plus my wage taxes. Now if most of you are tipping 10%, that means I will make 100$ that day. Well after tipping out my busboy 15% of my tips, and my bartender 7 1/2% of my tips, and my food runner 5% of my tips, I am left with $72.50. But I am still being taxed on $80+ dollars of income. Now how does that seem to you?? It sucks, that is why the basic standard is 15%. More if you get really good service.

I am not saying to tip for bad service. I mean a little something, but no more than 10%. The best thing you can do about bad service is to insist on speaking with a manager. 9 times out of 10, the problem will be taken care of. I work in vegas now, and we do make more per hour, but I put up with alot more shit than I used to. I have some funny ass stories about this town.

Oh well, there is my 2 cents for ya!

J

RazorGTR · #42 01-12-2002, 06:35 AM

I never realized how the system for waitresses and waiters worked. I knew they shared a percentage of tips with the bus boy/girl, but not the food runners and bartenders. hell the damn bartenders get tips from the patrons at the bar anyhow so why share yours with them? Do they share with you? sux.

NismoDrifts · #43 01-12-2002, 09:40 AM

yup, you got it down, thats how it works at my place

joshmel1 · #44 01-12-2002, 02:42 PM

The reason you share your money with the bartenders, is that they do make all of your bar beverages for you.(And since I live in Vegas, there are alot of them!!) Typically we have a bartender that is assigned to the service bar(For servers only, not customers). So we have to tip them for making our drinks through the night.

Another thing that works well, is the more you tip your support staff, the more help you get, which in turn helps me make your dining experience better. But if you don;t tip what is normal, or even fair, then I can't pay them enough, which breaks down the whole chain of events. Which leads to a shitty dining experience for you.

For those that have never done this job before, here are some interesting little things about the service industry.

Your average server walks around 5-7 miles a day.
In every restaurant I have ever worked, there is no lunch break, and there are no 15-30 minute breaks.

However in most restaurants the work shifts are shorter than normal. But the company that I work for now, we work from 10:15am to 6:00pm.
Or from5:30pm to 1:00am. All of this is actually waiting tables, with mostly drunk,late,angry,sad,high, mean,rude,non tipping customers. Sounds like fun huh!

Enough rambling for now.

J

RazorGTR · #45 01-12-2002, 02:54 PM

I don't evy you at all. I have never work in public relations as such. I have delt with customes on a buisness level as a Foreman and they can be ruthless also. Not to metion really demanding / shitty when products are not delivered on time. So can understand you and your point you are making quite easily.

It takes a special person to do what you do day in and day out and still retain your sanity.

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