Enzo vs. F1

[moslerporschefreak]

Ok, that makes more sense. Yeah, if nothing else, no other company has made such an in-a-league-of-its-own car like the F1. In fact, the only car that I could ever see doing something like that is either a new F1 (I doubt it'll happen but they have something to make up for with the new SLR) or maybe the Ferrari that'll come out in 2047 for the 100th birthday fo the company (If they're still around).

[freakonaleash1187]

of course mclaren could produce a car like the f1 with such a small team, they only produced that one car. how many cars did ferrari come out with in the time of the f1.....f-360, f-355, f-550, f-575, f-456, c'mon now, lets see mclaren come out with that many beautiful cars.

[broddie50]

Yea, that new SLR is going to be a beast! Since I won't realistically be able to own any of the above metioned super cars, I can still dream (those are still free I think!).

[moslerporschefreak]

Freakonaleash, it's all about quality over quantity. Before the Enzo came out and challenged the F1, I would take the F1 (especially the LM...delicious) over all ferraris produced in the last ten years. I mean, come on, would you want the ULTIMATE ROAD car or the f50 (big dissapointment), 360, 456, 575, etc. I would rather be part of a trully unique heritage. By comparison, ferraris are mass produced and of "lower quality" (when was the last time you saw a ferrari engine bay plated in gold?)

Also, do you really think that SLR is going to be a beast? To me it looks like it's not so hot in the corners (and I'm all about corners).

btw, don't read too much into this post. I love ferraris. If I could have just one car, it would be real close between the mac and the enzo, so don't think I'm a ferrari basher...

[broddie50]

Moseler, your dead on about a cars ability to corner. But I think Merc had more of a autobahn, long stretch of the road capability then a corner carver in mind when they put this out. I think that the SLR is more of a souped Gulfstream 5 then f-18 (don't know if that camparsion matches in your eyes, just kinda how envision it.).

[moslerporschefreak]

Yeah, you're right, and that is a good comparison. In that light, the merc does make sense. It's just that coming from McLaren, the company that specializes in Formula1 and produced the F1, I would have expected somthing more along the lines of a competitor to the old F1, enzo and Zonda

[broddie50]

Does anybody have any specs on the Zonda? From the sounds of it, they have to be seriously quick machines.

[ForgottenX]

http://www.fast-autos.net/pagani/paganizondagr.html thats ur zonda specs rite there

but either way the enzo beats the f1 in every aspec except top speed but the f1 was also designed to be daily driven :X an enzo can't be drivin for long periods of time with burning your legs F1 your fine ... but facts are facts enzo is a better car for racing track or stairt line but the f1 is a better car and designed for the driver

http://www.fast-autos.net/mclaren/mclarenf1gt.html
Specs on F1^

http://www.fast-autos.net/ferrari/ferrarienzo.html
Specs on enzo ^

[moslerporschefreak]

Yeah, the Mac was designed to be the ultimate car, happened to be the fastest for a decade (can't remember where I heard it put that way). The Enzo is decided to just be wickedly quick, and quick it is. Short of a LeMans or GT racer, the Enzo is as good as it gets. Zonda isn't bad, but not as quick as the Enzo, and personnaly I don't like the engine sound as much.

[freakonaleash1187]

talking about engine sound of the enzo, does anybody have any good videos of the enzo. i cant find any.

[Lambor]

I would have to go with the F1 cause there cool like that!!

[moslerporschefreak]

Freakonaleash, they only video I have found is on racingflix.com and at least it has Tiff Needell as the driver. Downside is that it's on racingflix and I would allow for 1-2 hours to download (so many people use the site that the bandwith is eaten up). However, if you have access to fifth gear (i.e. don't live in the U.S) then I would check and see if you could get the vid from another source...

[Partizan]

Everyone is stating how Mac is king but hasn't the Koenigsegg been tested unofficially as thte fastest vehicle yet topping the Mac? Sorry maybe I missed something but I was watching Top Gear and they claimed that it was the fastest car they've ever tested. And as for the comparison, I think that simply the class that is associated with a Ferrari makes up for something, but it's true these cars are made for different tasks, the F1 is straight line while Enzo is the track car.

[moslerporschefreak]

I know this isn't the intent of everyone out there, but it's starting to sound as though the mac can't turn to save its life (obviously not true). True the Enzo has better cornering but the F1 has the inherent advantage of a center driving position (basically negating any body roll and its affect on the driver).

Furthermore, even if the CC8S can out run the F1 at Nardo, Salt Flats or the Autobahn, the number of places that the CC8S wins can be counted on one hand.

My rankig of current super cars: Enzo-F1-Carrera GT-CC8S-Zonda

[ForgottenX]

umm lol the f1 was not designed to be a strait line car .... it can woop on almost all super cars on cornering accel comfort and top speed but since the enzo was designed to beat the mac ... thats wat it does but it still failed in comfort and top speed. both great cars one older and nest of its time one newer and faster.