3rd gen Mustang VS 3rd Gen Camaro

[syr74]

D+*n my slow typing. I knew that boosted..I really did.

[Hypsi87]

Originally Posted by syr74

Well, I am a Ford guy 1992 RS, but I am going to guess it was to meet Trans Am's displacement guidlelines.

BTW, back in the day my brother had two different 305 3rd gen Trans Am's ( I honestly couldn't tell you if they were TBI or TPI...I never asked or wrenched on them.) I had a 91 5.0 LX notchback automatic for a while and in every imrpomptu drag race I absolutely decimated him every time. (No offense intended at all to the Camaro guys)

I drove both of his cars on several occasions, and while they were much better suited to twisty roads than the Mustang, the power difference was more than noticeable.One was obviously "tweaked" when he bought it, and felt much stronger for it. But, he still wasn't faster than me.

A couple years after I got rid of my LX he ended up with a late eighties GTA. 5.7L and a very, very good looking car I might add. Much better looking than any 4th gen F-body IMO. That car would, IMO, have taken my Mustang as it felt much stouter than the 305 cars. However, get unfair and throw in the five speed for LX and I think the race just got a lot closer. IMO, just about even.

He had a chance to buy a "rebuildable" but wrecked 20th anniversary T/A once, and I begged him to do it. But, he was "scared" of the turbo six. Weiner.
Now THAT car would have kicked my......well, you know.

the turbo 6's are a little bit more complicated then a tpi but they are worth it

[1992RS]

Well the LX 5.0 was a lot faster than the GT's..I know that's not the point at all, but I thought I'd throw that in. And good job on the trivia question. That's exactly why they did it. And it was the shit too.

[DVS LT1]

Originally Posted by Hypsi87

the 350 tpi could not handle the GN turbo and intercooler setup. That is if your just talking about putting one directly on. That motor in stock form would not handle 14 PSI. They used G-body cars in nascar so it's not that much of a brick, I undersand the camaro/trans am has better aerodynamics, The 3rd gen trans am is one of the more areodynamic bodys that GM made. Stock for stock a GN can outrun a 3rd gen on the topend. They did put my engine in a Trans am for the 20th anniversary. It was the pace car for the indy 500. It is the only car to have paced the indy 500 with the only mod being stobe lights and a couple decals. As far as the handling goes..... you got me, But hey it's a street machine not a corner hugger. Besides most of the racing that goes on around here is in a stright line.

Throw in a few curves ill just get you in the straight away

P.S. last comment was a little friendly fun. Nice car (assuming that your aviatar is your car.) I really like the silver camaros

I was actually thinking about turboing a 350 LT1 - but regardless, a Buick turbo would not even fit under the hood of a 4th gen and you're right the engine would rip itself apart if just bolted on. Would definitely need forged 9.5:1 compression pistons, 4340 rods and crank, 4 bolt caps, & forged pushrods wouldn't hurt either. It was just a silly suggestion on my part anyways (although some nuts out there with coin DO go for the LS1 TT setup).

The 3rd gen TA's were very aerodynamic for their time, but you think more than a 4th gen Camaro? Besides the exposed quad lights on my car its a sick slope from the nose tip to the top of the windshield. BlackCamaroSS is always mentioning the big reason why the 4th gen F-platform was axed was because it didn't meet 2004 crash test standards, and after looking at my Z now I believe it - if a high SUV or car ever hit me head on it would be like driving up a nice ramp right into my lap!

Ya I was pulling your leg before - GN's are wicked cars! Although they only came in black I couldn't see them look that good in any other colour! As for mine - thanks for the compliment. The best thing about silver (or grey paint jobs also) is they are the easiest to keep clean.

[Hypsi87]

Originally Posted by DVS LT1

I was actually thinking about turboing a 350 LT1 - but regardless, a Buick turbo would not even fit under the hood of a 4th gen and you're right the engine would rip itself apart if just bolted on. Would definitely need forged 9.5:1 compression pistons, 4340 rods and crank, 4 bolt caps, & forged pushrods wouldn't hurt either. It was just a silly suggestion on my part anyways (although some nuts out there with coin DO go for the LS1 TT setup).

The 3rd gen TA's were very aerodynamic for their time, but you think more than a 4th gen Camaro? Besides the exposed quad lights on my car its a sick slope from the nose tip to the top of the windshield. BlackCamaroSS is always mentioning the big reason why the 4th gen F-platform was axed was because it didn't meet 2004 crash test standards, and after looking at my Z now I believe it - if a high SUV or car ever hit me head on it would be like driving up a nice ramp right into my lap!

Ya I was pulling your leg before - GN's are wicked cars! Although they only came in black I couldn't see them look that good in any other colour! As for mine - thanks for the compliment. The best thing about silver (or grey paint jobs also) is they are the easiest to keep clean.

Yea at least they did not come in that puke green that Regals where known to come in. Well I don't know about the TA being more aerodynamic but I read somewhere that the majority of cars that have a production body and hold some type of land speed record where 3rd Gen GTA's . Ill try to find more on that.

[89IROC&RS]

lol, geeze 92RS, you knew i knew that one right???? that engien was a beast, with the twin four barrels, it ran sub five second zero to sixties, and while the mags said it was enemic at low speed, once it wound up, it pulled like a hemi. rated at 290hp, and 290lbs/ft. but tested llater, ive heard of 390hp, but ive been told by others on this forum that they were closer to 350. but still, a bad ass ride none the less. too bad they didnt put the 302 in the third gens, instead of the 305. how bout that for a trivia question. who here knows why the 305 came about????

[1992RS]

cuz california sucks ass probably

[syr74]

Now THAT was funny. lol

[1992RS]

I read about this though, and can't remember exactly. It was either that or the trans am rules changed or something. Shit I can't remember.

[DeViL]

late eighties GTA. 5.7L and a very, very good looking car I might add. Much better looking than any 4th gen F-body IMO.

<----got one of those ....though 4th Gens I think look better especially the Firehawk, the interior of a 3rd gen GTA I think is much more appealing then any 4th generation Firebird.

[Vlad_Tepes]

I had a buddy with a 69 Z28 that 302 was worked over and could be spun to the moon.
Had engine work done so he could pull it to 10K rpm.. Let me tell you that was freaking scary and awesome all at the same time...

As much as I hate to admit it 3rd gen stang had a bit mor ass than a 3rd gen maro... But just didnt look as cool and rode a bit rough too.

[89IROC&RS]

DING DING DING, 305 was born because of emmissions. the large bore of the 302, with loose clearances, created lots and lots of hydrocarbons. (unburned fuel) so the 305 was created with a small bore to minimize the primary creator of this emmision, the piston edge. no one stopped and thought about the bore to stroke ratio, and see that it was horrible. they were focused on running cleaner. different times, different priorites. 302 = fast and scary, 305 = clean and tidy

[1992RS]

Where did you find that 302 Iroc??? I think I want one.

[Z28boy1991]

never knew chevy made 302

[1992RS]

Sure did, and if they kept it around longer it would be just as popular if not more so than the 350. Can you say 8k red line?? oh yeah baby.