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Very few police chases are a flatout drag race. Most of the offenders try to out manuveur you in the corners. The handling of the car is far more important than the top end, although you do need a stout engine, good brakes and an intelligent driver.
there you have it from the source of all sources, a cop with a camaro...
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ouch... it hurts to see a camaro messed up that bad...
oh. and fuck skylines, for the money it costs to import them u can have a serious machine(ahem.... camaro), not some gay japanese pussy lookin car.
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and its not about 1/4 when your in a police chase. Top speed is. Top speed for a stock camaro is 160. I dont think their is any other car that the average public can have that does over 160.
yea most ppl have speed governors so most of em won't top out after 120-130. Even if they tweaked it, it's still hard to beat 160 mph.

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no offense but, shouldnt they have something faster!? that does 1/4 mile in 13 seconds if i remember correctly. thats pretty slow, and from what i read in the SCC mag, alot of cars would easily get away from it... I really like the cop cars from japan, they have skylines,they look mean! doesnt europe have like porsches??
13 secs in the 1/4 mile is damn fast, and they can't have 12 sec cars for police cars b/c that's too expensive. In those rare circumstances, they will get police motorcycles which will definetly catch up to any car. Europe is pretty broad, that's just like saying "doesn't Asia/South America/Afria use go-karts?" and no country uses Porsche's as police cars, they're too expensive and they need go, not show.
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ouch... it hurts to see a camaro messed up that bad...
oh. and fuck skylines, for the money it costs to import them u can have a serious machine(ahem.... camaro), not some gay japanese pussy lookin car.
yea skylines are definetly a rip-off to import, they're $90,000 and you have to deal with emissions. And they are 350 hp stock, not 290 like the jap spec's say, they say 290 to meet the japanese's standards or something but it's actually 350.

What I plan to do though is get an engine swap into my 240sx, I found a skyline engine and tranny for $3,500. So that would be a 2,750 lb car with 350 hp under the hood . After that, I plan to race my friend's who all own domestics. The best competition will be a 2000 Camaro Z28, that should be interesting. My other friend plans to get the LS1 engine though and get that put in his 1982 Z28 and mod that up, I guess it'll be a 1/4 race between me and him. But yea a whole skyline imported from Japan is one of the biggest rip-offs ever.

I dunno about Corvettes disguised as police cars in VA, I live in Northern VA and I haven't seen any. I've seen plenty of camaros and others, but not Corvettes. What Va is now doing though are cops are getting their own cars and if they catch a speeder, they put on one of those blue lights on their hood and pull you over. So a cop can pretty much be any car here... Though I always look out for the antennas on the back of the car, if they have 3 of em and they are long, it's a cop.

And Evos, I don't like em, I'd choose the WRX STi over that mitsubishi crap.

I think the Camaro Z28 is pretty the most suited police car out there, it's the fastest car for it's price. And nacho nissan keeps bringing up how they should use some kind of an import as a police car, that's just not going to happen.
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Not to burst your domestic bubble... but the Evo 8 is the superior car. The STi runs bigger numbers, but when you run it out into the dirt (which is where Evo's shine... they're not grocery getters...they're AWD rally beasts) the Evo will win, easy as that. Just look at last years WRC, mitsu came out on top.

And again to burst your domestic bubbles...

The only thing you're gonna pay 90 grand for Skyline wise is an R34 GT-R, and that will make any Camaro it's stupid bitch.

You can get a Skyline R32 GT-St for around 25 grand, and an R32 GT-S for 40 grand if you import it straight out of motorex (including compliance with USDM standards)

You can talk HP numbers all day long... but like I've proven to my own father more and more... HP means ass when you're a street legal 4 cylinder running 8's in the 1/4 with all stock body and glass.

I'm sure you've heard of Jon Shepherds 91 Eagle Talon TSi. AWD 4g63 motor beast (same engine as in the Evo) and runs 8s on street tires, and he drives it home. Bash rice all you want. But remember - you can tickle Supras to around 1200hp with about 35 grand.
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Re: Police Camaro

How many police chases have you seen that last 1/4 mile?! I don't know about you guys, but if a guy has a cop on his ass for 1/4 mile and then stops, I wouldn't call that a chase. My Caprice may not have the best pull off the line, but I sure as hell can run fast on a long stretch. I can just imagine what a police camaro can catch with the right driver behind the wheel.
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Tis true... it's usually a balance between top-speed/acceleration.

Although what's the top speed on a cop camaro? I'm not too sure on that one...

Shep's Talon did 9.08 at 157mph... I dunno how much he had left in his gears, but personally... if I saw a car pull away that fast on a freeway... I'm gonna let his ass go... no way I'm gonna waste the time tryin to get my car up to that speed :P


note: I don't hate domestics... I just like cars. Hell, I drive a pos MX6 and it handles far better than my womans 99 T/A... but there's somethin about the feeling you get when the LS1 is pounding away at your touch that... I dunno gets me fuzzy.
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Re: Police Camaro

well, not to sound like an import guy here, but the money i would save on a camaro vs a skyline or the 35k your talking about spending on a supra, and i would imagine that i could run at least 10s, probly 9s out of my domestic V8. its all in how you spend it. im looking at spending 10k on my 89 IROC and running low 11s, mid 10s fully daily driven and naturaly asperated, so imagine what i could do with 25k extra. twin turbos anyone, nitrous, its all relative. as far as the evo vs the WRX, who actually drives them off the road, its kinda like the SUV crowd today, could those things go offroad,yeah, in a heartbeat, will they EVER in their existance, no. same with these "rally" cars, sure, in racing trim, they are rediculous, and those drivers have bigger balls than i ever will, but for the people who buy them as daily transportation, they wont ever take them off roading, you know it, we know it, so what exactly does it matter???? i personally dont know the numbers on either, at least not off the top of my head, but if the WRX has better perfrmance numbers, then its the winner between the two. no real argument there.
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Old 02-01-2004, 11:50 AM
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Well yeah, I'm sure by the numbers the WRX is the winner, but I think it comes down (honestly) to the driver and his preference. (And just to clarify... when you live out here in KY and you like rally... you bet your balls im gonna take it off road with some adjustments...although the "street racer" crowd wouldnt)

I think as far as racing goes - some prefer cheap raw power and some prefer high-dollar tuning. Some people do it just to see what they can squeeze out of a small engine. I like cars in general... 8 second v8's and 8 second 4 bangers have the same draw for respect. Anyone that tunes their car for performance and/or show should be commended because that's what we as car lovers do. Make our cars our own. Well... real car lovers... not just some punk kid with a civic and the same body-kit as 8 million others...with the same wing and the same paint job.

Sorry about the tangent... all I'm sayin is both sides(import and domestic) get bad reps and they shouldnt :P
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fair enough, and i guess the generalization of no owner going off road was a bit rash, i suppose that there mght be like 3% of yall that actually take em off road but i do agree, 8 seconds on a street car, regardless of anything else, is worthy of respect. however, i do not concider anything that runds 8, a ricer. rice is show with no go as far as i have seen it. a ricer is all wings and spoilers and body kits and rims, 8 seconds is just a bad ass
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Agreed.

I'd say even 10 seconds in a street car is worthy of respect.
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Re: Police Camaro

12 sec cars can make the run from the cops... atleast in my town its good enough. my buddy has an 88 turbo rx-7, he's run from the po-digidy man a bunch of times. its not about top-speed, you wanna be able to accelerate to get out of line-of-site of the cop and then start makin turns, im sure the police know thats what we're tryin to do...
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Re: Police Camaro

wrx STi beats evo in the 1/4 mile, but evo beats wrx out in every other category. I'd take the STi just b/c it looks way better and it's more reliable than mitsu.
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