2004 GTO - What do you think?

[SuPeRcAr_MaN]

There was a black one at the Motor Trend show in Baltimore Sunday. I actually didn't get within 10 feet of it, I felt there were much nicer things at the show to look at. That's not saying much for the GTO, considering this show is relatively small and rather boring. But my point is this car is just nothing to look at. Nothing pops out at you and there are many other cars on the road I would rather own. However, I am dying to drive one. 350 horses and they say it drives better than anything GM is making. The way I feel about cars, I can't just look past the boring styling, so I can tell you I won't be buying one anytime soon. But I do want to rive one nd I'll tell you if I do, and I hope you all do the same...

[cowtnadv]

This thing looks like all the other GM products! In fact it looks like my kid's Grand Am but bigger! Get original GM - find some new designers and RETOOL for a better auto. I can't believe they think this has any relation to the original goat other than they included the HP it should have.

AND WHERE'S THE HOOD (working) SCOOPS! Morons with half a brain designers!

Maybe they would be better off going to some of fabulous custom muscle car rod builders here in the states and ask for designs. I have seen custom rods I would deem GTOs before I would call this one a GTO!

Another futile attempt by GM beancounters to copy and save money than trying to invest money in the US market and truly believe in an original product - GTO!

I tried not to sugar coat it!

[69WiLdcaT]

ok guys i don't think that companies should try to revive dead cars... let them rest and kep their legacy.. however it's no like they compleely made a old capper and tried to sell it by calling it a GTO, it has well over 300 horses and for today that's not to shabby. In fact accoding to a magazine article it has 350+. he new hemi doesn't even have 350, either way you look at it yes it's a great new car but hey should have named it someting else as far as i'm concerned the GTO reign ended in 69 let a different pontiac reign in 2004 and on.

[RedLightning]

well i have no problem with companies reviving a dead cars, kinda wish they would revive the malibu and impala back to rwd v8 cars.

[WannaRockett]

Finally, it's here.

On a visit to Australia in Spring '02, I fell in love with the Holden Monaro. I was thrilled to find upon further investigation that it was due to be released here as none other than the GTO.

Now however, I am a bit disappointed. I just expected more....style, more grunt... I mean, they gave it the GTO name but when I look at the GTO I dont SEE the power that I've read about.

Comparing the GTO I saw at previous Detroit International Auto Shows... and the Holden Monaros I saw on the road in Melbourne makes me wonder about GM's goals for this car. Loving the specs on it, however sadly enough I think a vast majority of the population puts more weight in the the look of a car than they should. That being said... I am impatiently awaiting the design of the next generation.

The few (and I do mean FEW) I've seen on the road here seemed lacking. I will admit that most of the Monaros I had seen were decked out with the HSV package so maybe I should sit tight and just wait for us to really work it over... SOMEBODY PLEASE SUPRISE ME HERE .... show me how it SHOULD have been done!!

**Also, I am currently working on a project for class, a magazine layout. What I am looking for are actual photographs of a decent size of the Holden Monaro and the original GTO, and any actual articles comparing these cars. Email me at [email protected], include GTO/Monaro in the subject line. Any clues you can give me are greatly appreciated!!!**

[AMC360Concord]

its still the same concept of the GTO
taking an existing model and dropping a massive v8 in it.

i know it resmebles nothing of the original GTO which is disappointing
at least it is rear wheel drive and has optional manual transmissions

most newer cars using muscle car names have lost this
(grand prix, monte carlo, impala, malibu) to name a few

[Murray B.]

Its like a Buick with a Corvette motor and it is horribly expensive. The original goat was a Tempest with a big block that could really move a station wagon. It is interesting that the new GTO will be ten times the price of the original. Who cares about a performance car if most people can't afford it. MUSCLE for the MASSES, I say.

[musclecarfanatic]

back then muscle cars only costed like 2500$ from what my dad says, but since then prices have gone up due to inflation and other causes. its like gas prices and milk prices

[Murray B.]

Originally Posted by musclecarfanatic

back then muscle cars only costed like 2500$ from what my dad says

Your dad is telling you true except that they started at $2500 and then went up depending on options. Back then I worked at a job for minumum wage which was $1.65/hr. So lets say you fancied up a goat with all the options to make it $3200. Today it is $32000 so the minumum wage would have to be $16.50 to keep up. I figure the new GTO is about triple the price of the old one after adjusting for inflation. There is another problem, however. Back in '64 everything coming out of Detroit had a life expectancy of thirty years. People changed for new styling and such, not because the car was worn out. There is no way that this new one is a thirty or even a twenty year vehicle. Ten is about the limit and only after that will it be worth $3200 just like the original.

The new one would have to cost $16,000 and come with a 100,000 mile bumper to bumper warranty to even come close to the old one. This ain't gonna happen so this new one is a goat in name only.