What should I do?

[Dorikin]

Originally Posted by RalphCare

coming back from the drift event just yesterday, i can honestly tell u that the KA is not meant for drifting, although some people got it to go around pretty nice, but then cutting short on the end of the counter steer.

the engine just doesnt haven enuff high rpm power to keep the wheels spinning. but it will get them spinning down low, but once ur half way into the drift, down low doesnt matter much.



this is just from what i saw. im sure brian and dorikin can vouch for what i just wrote, cause they were there with me.

Ok sure if you wanna be like Marco(insane driver with 400whp 11 sec 240SX who won), then you need the high revs big power. But there WAS a KAT who was pulling some great drifts.

In the grand scheme of things, it doesnt matter. The secret to winning drift comps is to stay close to the race line. Our friend placed 8th out of 17 with a 70hp corrola solely because he had the best lines.

[SR20DETpower]

get a set of cams, this will change the rebability of a KA a lot!.... and it always makes more torque then a SR mod for mod, torque is what spins wheels son.

like Dorikin said, its not so much power as it is technique.

[CrzyMR2T]

just get a sr20det, comes as a turbo, more aftermarket parts.

[spitz7985]

ahh, the age old question. KA vs. SR vs. CA vs. RB

everyone has their preferance. you need to make your own. what do you want from the car? if you're gonna drag, then the RB is hands down the way to go. for auto-xing, the SR and CA are good choices. the bonus for the japanese engines is they can see A LOT of boost before their internals break.

my preferance is the KA mostly b/c i dont want a japanese engine in my car. if my oil sump breaks, i want to be able to go the Nissan dealer and order a new one. the KA has a lot of potential. all it needs is a turbo, some pistons (the rods are forged stock), fuel and ignition upgrades, some head porting, and more performance oriented cams and it's ahead of the pack.

[Dorikin]

Originally Posted by CrzyMR2T

just get a sr20det, comes as a turbo, more aftermarket parts.

Not everyone is a mindless sheep.

Did you know that the KA can actually withstand more boost. Iron block, deep girdles and skirts, low compression.

Oh, and Greddy makes a ton of crap for the KA now. And so does Yashio Factory, and hey, theyre JDM y0, so they must be good in your eyes.

[SR20DETpower]

I think KA's are faster mod for mod. The bigger displacement is a shoe in, and the iron block will take more power. I hope one day to fully exploit a KA24DE, I have yet to see one come even close to its potential. Im talking full engine rebuild and everything imaginable done to the internals, Forged pistons, lightweight rods, lightweight crankshaft, cams, head porting, lightweight valvetrain components. Then tune it up with a turbocharger and see what it can do, I bet you can easily get over 600hp with enough turbocharger.

[Dorikin]

dollar for hp the KA-T is definetly the better setup.

Especially the $1000 SPL system SR20DETPower has come up with(to which I added a couple items)

You should post that in the FAQ cuz its a useful resource,

[Suislide]

actually, Ralph, Marco was the only guy in the top 3 with an SR. both of the S14's that placed under him were STOCK KA's with only minor exhaust/intake mods. the green S14 that placed second was drifting insanely ALL day long, even spinning out at times because he would put too much power into the drift, and the guy who came in third in the champagne S14 had some of the best amateur drifts i've ever seen.

out of the top 5 cars, only 2 (Marco and Mike) had SR's. the rest were fairly stock KA's. and the black S13 coupe that got INSANELY sideways on every corner and was usually sideways for the whole course, the guy that did the battle for 5th place with the other green S14? once again, stock KA with only minor exhaust/intake mods, yet he could drift the entire course, with his wheels spinning wildly and his hand out the window. he didn't make it through because of his race lines and entry speeds.


KA's are capable engines, definitley. if i get a 240 after my M30 (or as well as my M30 ) then i'd opt to go SR simply because i've been a fan of it longer and know more about it.

[Dorikin]

Ya and its also in Super Street y0!

Haha jokes I know you love the motor, and so do I

Better than an RB20

If I got a 240, id buy a ghetto one, with a ghetto KAT setup, then sell it for like, 6k and buy another one and do SR.

Variety is the spice of life

[CrzyMR2T]

Not everyone is a mindless sheep.

Did you know that the KA can actually withstand more boost. Iron block, deep girdles and skirts, low compression.

Oh, and Greddy makes a ton of crap for the KA now. And so does Yashio Factory, and hey, theyre JDM y0, so they must be good in your eyes

what? are you ok? KA can withstand more boost? omg are you serious? i didnt know yO, wait now what did u just say? it has iron block? no way, and i didnt know? i already know that, but thats after u change the pistons and stuff for the boost part right? i want an sr cause i dont have to mess with the internals to get a little over 300hp with good reliability. im not trying to make it a drag car, i would use my mr2 to drag. i still see more stuff for the sr20det than the ka24de though.

[Dorikin]

Originally Posted by CrzyMR2T

what? are you ok? KA can withstand more boost? omg are you serious? i didnt know yO, wait now what did u just say? it has iron block? no way, and i didnt know? i already know that, but thats after u change the pistons and stuff for the boost part right? i want an sr cause i dont have to mess with the internals to get a little over 300hp with good reliability. im not trying to make it a drag car, i would use my mr2 to drag. i still see more stuff for the sr20det than the ka24de though.

Come on. Are you running at fuckin 20psi or some shit?

TatII makes 240whp on like, 7psi of boost with 0 problems. Home made KAT for 3grand. Thats gonna kick a fuckin SR in the nuts. You can prob. dial the boost up to 8, maybe 10psi if your careful on a junkyard T3 or even a T3/T4.

Hell, strip the back out, and that will be like running 300whp with full interior.

Yes, its Iron block, yes it has deep skirts, and the engine is all around stonger. Yes if something goes wrong, you can get parts easier.

Fuck drag racing, some guy drifter a KA-T and did it well. Talk about torque, this thing could twist the damn frame.

You know why you see more stuff for the SR20. Cuz all you look at are trendy ass SS mags and shit. Open Turbo( a respectable magazine BTW) SCC, grassroots Motorsport, or *GASP* Option magazine. You know Yashhio factory has an EXTENSIVE line of JDM KA parts.

I suggest you get off deez nuts, cuz anyone knowledgable here will tell you a KAT can go toe to toe with an SR.

Its a 10 year old Sentra motor with a turbo boo fricken hoo.

[CrzyMR2T]

Come on. Are you running at fuckin 20psi or some shit?

TatII makes 240whp on like, 7psi of boost with 0 problems. Home made KAT for 3grand. Thats gonna kick a fuckin SR in the nuts. You can prob. dial the boost up to 8, maybe 10psi if your careful on a junkyard T3 or even a T3/T4.

Hell, strip the back out, and that will be like running 300whp with full interior.

Yes, its Iron block, yes it has deep skirts, and the engine is all around stonger. Yes if something goes wrong, you can get parts easier.

Fuck drag racing, some guy drifter a KA-T and did it well. Talk about torque, this thing could twist the damn frame.

You know why you see more stuff for the SR20. Cuz all you look at are trendy ass SS mags and shit. Open Turbo( a respectable magazine BTW) SCC, grassroots Motorsport, or *GASP* Option magazine. You know Yashhio factory has an EXTENSIVE line of JDM KA parts.

I suggest you get off deez nuts, cuz anyone knowledgable here will tell you a KAT can go toe to toe with an SR.

Its a 10 year old Sentra motor with a turbo boo fricken hoo.

dude, chill out. u talk too much, and this is not worth fighting about, so u got ur opinions, i got mine ok? im sticking with the sr20det, thats just me.

[Dorikin]

Get off deez nuts immediately.

[CrzyMR2T]

Get off deez nuts immediately.

what is your problem? im done with you.

[SR20DETpower]

"Its a 10 year old Sentra motor with a turbo boo fricken hoo."

LMFAO!!!!


exactly, don't get me wrong, I don't hate the Sr20, I think it is another one of Nissans great motors among MANY. Just over all the time I've researched on 240's...I've come to the realization the KA24 is a better motor for what I like to do.

And don't say you need power to drift, theres another thread about end of month bandwith special as the title, theres a black s13 coupe on there and I swear to god the guy said it was stock. That thing roasted the tires around the entire track making smoke, he was outdoing ls1 pontiac, 350z's... and lots of other shit. LIke I said there was one guy named Duy with a 500+hp KA on NoS, and that was not even to its full potential, there was A LOT more shit he could of done to the internals, not only to increase hp by itself, leave more room for added boost, and add to the over all revability(my new word) of the motor. race motor for race motor, a KA will make more power over any SR you can thinkk of it is built up the same just because of its displacement. Lets look at one simple fact Sr20de=140hp KA24De=155hp.... Even in naturally aspirated stock forms the KA has an advantage over the SR.

But don't get me wrong im not hating on the SR, just cause its weaker...

that would be also hating on the CA which I think is another great nissan motor among others.

I hope one day to get a 240sx and just make it into a race car. F all the street racing and drivability BS, im just going all out on it. its sole purpose will be to kick the living shit out of SR's, Viper, z06, porsche or any other poor soul who comes to the same venue as me.