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willimo.... first off NASCAR is the best example of this if you look at the history and consider its called stock car racing. for example Pontiac introduced the Superbird (not sure of year 70's?..i hate american cars) as a production car (500 or 1000 produced i think) purely to gain an edge in the stock car curcuit. it came with a massive wing to better the down force and was purely put into production for the purpose of NASCAR. basically a loop hole and was very contraversial. it swept the curcuit that year and provitions were made in the rules to keep this from happenning again.
now as for Silvia... now your in my arena... the Silvia CSP311 was introduced in 1964 and was derived from the Fairlady 1500 chassis and the brand new R engine later used in Fairlady 1600 and the Bluebird SSS RL411. The Silvia was a very high-end sports car $4300 where as the Prince GT Skyline was about $2900. Silvias were produced from 1964 to 69 then from 70 to present under various names such the Nissan GT Coupe to the 240sx and Z(yes 240 z was a silvia development not a Z car) to the 99 jdm New Silvia release. now i believe the Prince was introduced in 1966 as the GT-B or S54B. now came the Nissan C-10 GT-r Skyline or "Hakasuka" in 1969 and BORROWED its S20 engine from the Silvia! the Skyline didnt go in its own direction until 1972 with C-110 model but has always maintained its body styling. In 1977 the Skyline gained c211 and moved on to the LE20ET turbo engine. again borrowed from the 240z and 280z productions. 1982 came the Skyline DR-30 which was a major over haul and this is when Skyline became the premiere sport car and Silvia took the backseat. But Silvia was always first for development such as Super HICUS which was later put into the BNR32. so actually it would seam that Skyline benifited from the Silvia and not the other way around.

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We have loads in the UK
Maybe so but they are still a rare sight. Yesterday, I saw a Diablo on the M6 - seen about 4 or 5 of these out on the road. Last week I saw two F355's in the same day, i've seen loads of them and the 360 Modena too. I've only ever seen one R34, a handful of R33's and a couple of R32's, I was more excited seeing the R34 than the Diablo.
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Re: Skyline hype?!?

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ive been really curious about this... why is everyone so into modelling Nissan Skylines? first off, you all must know that my favorite manufacturer is Nissan (i have a 240sx). but i do not understand the craze behind the Skyline with American modellers. i know that the Skyline has more kits available then any other car. and it is an awesome car.....but has any American ever seen one in real life? there are only 5 of them registered in the U.S. and the Infinti Q35 isnt any like the JDM Skyline so what gives? i like to model cars i experience first hand not the cars on the front of Super Street mag. plus alot of the Skyline model kits are nearly identical. so i ask.... why do Americans love the Skyline so much knowing that welll never get to own much less see one? I think that the Silvia line is much more interesting model to model. its not a power house but the body constantly evolves. the Skyline just keeps looking more and more like a WRX or a Corrolla or what ever. i know im going to get flamed for this but i must know.
Simply put, among the import enthusiasts here in the U.S., the Skyline GT-R is like a our unicorn, a mythical creature that few are able to obtain. As far a massproduced cars go, it's an engineering tour de force that Nissan has been dangling over our heads and teasing us with ever since all of the Japanese sports cars have left our shores.

Even when Japanese sports cars such as the Toyota Supra TT, Mazda RX7, Nissan 300ZX, and Mitsubishi 3000GT(GTO) were available, none could possibley hold a candle to the GT-R. Even now that we have cars such as the Subaru WRX and Mitsubishi Lancer Evo VIII, the GT-R still remains the car that we would bitchslap our mothers for.

Sure, there are dream cars like Ferrari, Lamborghini, and Porche. But in spite of that, up until recently, the GT-R was impossible to obtain. Even though now they are being imported, they are still rather difficult to get being that they range from 30k for an R32, to 90k+ for an R34, very expensive considering that in other countries they are alot more affordable and financing is available.

So in the end, for most of us, owning one in either 1/12, 1/18, or 1/24 scale form is our only option......
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I think this discussion is very healthy for our board as it has made a lot of us think!! I would like to re-iterate my welcome to you:WELCOME TO AF!!! You should look for the Skyline meet thread when you get a chance...
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I haven't built a skyline yet, but ooooh is it coming. I regret that nissan has yet to bring it formally to the U.S., but I have seen two personally here in chicago. One is the classic blue dropped four inches above ground he simply murders the S2000's around here (north Chicago). The other skyline I saw was an older model like a 94 or so and it still looked sweet compared to the shit offered on the market here today. In one statement the skyline is where it's at.
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I've always liked the Skylines, and Nissan did a good job of making them better and look better with each evo. To me the R33 is one of the most perfect looking 2 door cars ever.

Ask any kid with Grand Turismo, he'll know what a Skyline is.
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I've always liked the Skylines, and Nissan did a good job of making them better and look better with each evo. To me the R33 is one of the most perfect looking 2 door cars ever.

Ask any kid with Grand Turismo, he'll know what a Skyline is.
Exactly, better yet ask any adult who plays Grand Turismo !
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I'm a skyline freak! I want to collect all Skyline family...now I'm doing it. Reason I love Skyline is because it is aggressive. No matter which angle you look, it's aggressive...that's all.

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Oke guys i love the skyline and all but I think that they get kinda boring cause everyone is building one

Anyway the skyline is the best car in the world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


P.S.I saw one to here in Virginia Beach I think it was a R32 and it had this cool bodykit and i think it hat rx-7 tail lights
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Very good points made. I agree with a lot of them. I think for the most part it's because it's such a rare sports car. The Silvia is an awesome machine, but there are so many 240's here in North America. There are still lot's of Silvia models in here. So maybe it's a combination of what car you love and want a scale model of. The Civic is a different story. The reason they're so popular is because they're a good car and don't cost an arm and a leg to own and there are an infinite amount of aftermarket parts available to make them fast little cars. So in the case of the Skyline I think it's such a rare and awesome car. Remember when Grand Turismo first came out and everyone was obsessed with the EVO!?........Well I was anyway
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Oke guys i love the skyline and all but I think that they get kinda boring cause everyone is building one

Anyway the skyline is the best car in the world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


P.S.I saw one to here in Virginia Beach I think it was a R32 and it had this cool bodykit and i think it hat rx-7 tail lights
sounds kinda fishy. RX7 tail lights on an R32?????

As some one said earlier in this thread, id rather do a 360 Ferarri or how ever you spell that sausage shit.
I would take a skyline before i would take any car from Italy, even if the skyline is slower. ITS JUST FUckING AWESOme!

my personal fav is the R32.
ive built and completed 2 skylines, and tried to build another one but stoped half way through and i am now working on an R32 skyline, id have to say the only car i want more than a skyline is a supra.

Now for importing a skyline? you can get R33 GTRs from japan for $7,500 USA, but then you have to pay for shipping, customs and all kinds of other shit and thats where it becomes expensive, ill ask my friend for a link tot hat site, they got skylines, supras, silvias, all the good JDM cars for cheaper than most hondas.
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Aha but he DID misspell 'Silvia'
I had it confused with the Saint.
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here in NZ 1 out of every 3 cars in the carpark is a skyline
unfortunately the other two are ford falcon and holden commodore


oh and yeah it's S-I-L-V-I-A Silvia

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