Now this should be exciting - McLaren versus Enzo on 5th Gear...

[carbuilder2002]

Our Dutch friend could view a similar Papaya Orange 1996 GTR at Autohandel in Germany. Just as close and no sea voyage.

[Mcl@ren]

Hi Mr Bridger

Just wanted to say hi from here in SA. I have yet to see an F1 in the flesh (apart from a brief glimse of one for about 3 seconds when i waas in london in '96)
I enjoy reading threads in which you post cause it gives some idea of how F1 owners think and react with the F1 fans.

Thanks man for some good reads.

I was expecting that, so true as well, I probably couldn't afford a single part on the car

Heck, i can't ebven afford one of the 1/12th models thorst13 is usaually chatting about. (I have a Ninco and a cheapie larger scale version in orange and black)

[mr bridger]

[quote=Mcl@ren]Hi Mr Bridger

Just wanted to say hi from here in SA. I have yet to see an F1 in the flesh (apart from a brief glimse of one for about 3 seconds when i waas in london in '96)
I enjoy reading threads in which you post cause it gives some idea of how F1 owners think and react with the F1 fans.

Thanks man for some good reads.



many thanks, your welcome....

[Peloton25]

I guess this is the new "Q&A with Mr. Bridger" thread, so here is one or two or three hundred of mine.

Looking through photos of GTR #11R the other day I suddenly realized that car no longer has its built in roll cage fitted any longer. <gasp>

I don't know why I hadn't noticed this previously, but I was sort of shocked to see it missing as in the back of my mind I was convinced that all the GTRs still had them. This caused me to look at the other GTRs which have seen major refits or were converted for road use in one form or another, and I discovered #06R, #07R, #08R, #10R, #13R and the car assumed to be #14R/#15R all still have their's fitted based on the most recent photo evidence.

Yours however, is missing it too. <another gasp>

I now know it was removed long before you got your hands on the car, but were you informed if there was there a specific reason for this, or was it just owner preference? I assume not having it is a good thing from the standpoint of creating more space inside the car. Also, not having to concern yourself about wearing a helmet for a trip down to the local pub is a benefit. However, I am wondering if this is something that could easily be refitted to the car, or would it take an enormous amount of effort to do so? Do you even have the pieces? I know that some GTRs are sold with entire sets of various spares and pieces of bodywork left over from the days of racing. Do you have a package like this somewhere and if so, what might it consist of?

Actually, maybe you shouldn't tell us or those individuals here who are attempting to build their F1s from randomly sourced parts will start hounding you to sell them something.

I assume that depending on someone's intentions with the car it might be worth more to them to have the cage if they planned to go racing. Not that the car really requires it to be safe, but it seems most sanctioning bodies would require it. I'm guessing here, but I suspect if you were inclined to risk your baby participating in one of Stephan Ratel's new race exhibitions that it would need to be in place. Any thoughts on that?

Last point on the cage - the '96 LeMans scrutineering decal was affixed to the cage upright and I was thinking it would be a shame if that were lost. Obviously there's little doubt where this car has been given the excellent documentation that exists, but I'd consider that an important piece of the car's history. Is it preserved somewhere still? For those who aren't familiar, you can see it on the bar through the side window in this shot:



Finally, speaking of spare parts, are you in posession of the set of bubble headlights that were fitted to the car at Le Mans? I realize it is function over form, but I may be one of the few who likes the look of them and am curious what you think? Would you consider putting them on your car if you had access to them?

Cheers for the time and trouble as always!

>8^)
ER

[PatrickT82]

Carbuilder: I have seen the orange GTR 11R two times. One time I took pics of it. Peloton can repost them I think?

it were analog pics so I dont have them on my pc anymore.


I have the ambition of viewing and photographing ALL chassisnumbers ever made! So far I come to 12 or 13 F1's
Sadly I missed some opportunities to see a new one on my list like 01R at Autosport International Birmingham some weeks ago

[mr bridger]

Originally Posted by Peloton25

I guess this is the new "Q&A with Mr. Bridger" thread, so here is one or two or three hundred of mine.

Looking through photos of GTR #11R the other day I suddenly realized that car no longer has its built in roll cage fitted any longer. <gasp>

I don't know why I hadn't noticed this previously, but I was sort of shocked to see it missing as in the back of my mind I was convinced that all the GTRs still had them. This caused me to look at the other GTRs which have seen major refits or were converted for road use in one form or another, and I discovered #06R, #07R, #08R, #10R, #13R and the car assumed to be #14R/#15R all still have their's fitted based on the most recent photo evidence.

Yours however, is missing it too. <another gasp>

I now know it was removed long before you got your hands on the car, but were you informed if there was there a specific reason for this, or was it just owner preference? I assume not having it is a good thing from the standpoint of creating more space inside the car. Also, not having to concern yourself about wearing a helmet for a trip down to the local pub is a benefit. However, I am wondering if this is something that could easily be refitted to the car, or would it take an enormous amount of effort to do so? Do you even have the pieces? I know that some GTRs are sold with entire sets of various spares and pieces of bodywork left over from the days of racing. Do you have a package like this somewhere and if so, what might it consist of?

Actually, maybe you shouldn't tell us or those individuals here who are attempting to build their F1s from randomly sourced parts will start hounding you to sell them something.

I assume that depending on someone's intentions with the car it might be worth more to them to have the cage if they planned to go racing. Not that the car really requires it to be safe, but it seems most sanctioning bodies would require it. I'm guessing here, but I suspect if you were inclined to risk your baby participating in one of Stephan Ratel's new race exhibitions that it would need to be in place. Any thoughts on that?

Last point on the cage - the '96 LeMans scrutineering decal was affixed to the cage upright and I was thinking it would be a shame if that were lost. Obviously there's little doubt where this car has been given the excellent documentation that exists, but I'd consider that an important piece of the car's history. Is it preserved somewhere still? For those who aren't familiar, you can see it on the bar through the side window in this shot:



Finally, speaking of spare parts, are you in posession of the set of bubble headlights that were fitted to the car at Le Mans? I realize it is function over form, but I may be one of the few who likes the look of them and am curious what you think? Would you consider putting them on your car if you had access to them?

Cheers for the time and trouble as always!

>8^)
ER

hello peleton, apologies for the delay but my father recently passed away & i have had many things to deal with, however life must go on & this helps take my mind of things, so....the rollcage, it just gives more room in the car & easier passage in & out, i still have it in case the car ventures back out onto the circuit in the future....the spares i received with the car include carbon discs / pads, rollcage, carbon brake ducts, throttle cables, lights etc etc...the le mans scrutineering sticker!, i will have a look for that as i carnt say i ever even thought about it truth be told!, thanks, Mr B. ps/ any chance you could add this thread to the original F1 / Enzo thread, its hard enough for old guys like me checking 1 site let alone 2 !!!..

[Peloton25]

Very sorry to hear of the passing of your father.

Obviously no apology is ever necessary for your absence, especially in a situation like that.

Thanks for answering my questions. I do hope you find that the LeMans sticker has not be misplaced. I also merged the threads at your request.

>8^)
ER

[Peloton25]

BTW Mr B - not sure if you were home watching TopGear last night, but if not I have found a way for you to make a quick 30 Pounds once you take delivery of that Veyron.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGww3qGC5CU

>8^)
ER

[Le Man]

I offer you, my most sincere condolence "Mr Bridger" on the passing of your father.

[PatrickT82]

Condoleances from me too Mr Bridger

I wish you all the best!

[carbuilder2002]

Deepest sympathy Mr Bridger.

[carbuilder2002]

I have contacted Safety Devices Ltd. who originally supplied the GTR rollcages and have been quoted £1,000 for a kit of parts which would then need fitting to the car. I am not clear if they would do this or if you would have to find your own installer. I'm sure Paul Lanzante could reinstate one without much trouble, though it may take about a month at a guess.
Being quite short space inside the car would not be so much a problem. As for wearing a helmet, you need the ear defenders anyway so why not be a real poser and have the intercom built into a matching helmet lol.

[F1 monster]

Mr. B, I am sorry to hear of your loss.

The rollcage, when fitted, is not an issue for entry/egress. Nor is it a problem for the driver. But, for the passenger, it's the difference between relative comfort and absolute, utter misery. You have to almost sit sideways around the rollcage, and it is a very hard, unforgiving surface that pushes against you the whole time. I can't imagine being a passenger in a car with a rollcage.

Install one only if you intend to go racing...alone.

[cabrio92]

I am so sorry for you mister Bridger,

unhappily, 2006 ended bad and 2007 began bad around me
I know what it represent to loose a parent. I wish you a best end of year.

Phil

[mr bridger]

many thanks to all, your kind words are much appreciated, Mr B.