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#16
10-24-2003, 01:15 PM
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wow you are a winner.
Ever hear of Aprillia? They hold their value about 200% times better than any harley. Go buy a copy of cycletrader and see how many people are selling Harleys, there is a reason for that. The v-rod will NEVER keep up with any sportbike, it is a 12 second 1/4 mile, mines 2 seconds faster, how do you figure that? The jap cruisers, specifically the VTX, have gone through such a meticulous detail to making the bike pleasurefull to ride that it can't even be compared to the archaic design of a Harleys pushrod engine. At idle the 300cc bigger engine than harleys 88ci doesnt even shake the mirrors, its called refinement, something harley doesnt have. I have ridden to Las Vegas several times on my R1, only stopping for gas, my hands only went numb once or twice when i first started riding. And talk about hands going numb, how about apehangers? all the blood from your hands drain out of your arms, its why they all look so fucking funny riding around town. Go ahead and keep thinking you are buying an american bike also, considering there are many many japanese items on each harley. Not to mention the fact that the Honda auto plant in Ohio hires MORE american workers than all of harley and buell. So please, keep stroking yourself off if you want, ignorant people are fun to make fun of.
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#17
10-25-2003, 12:18 AM
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R-1 I was just about to say the same things. The thing is that the guys that own and defend Harleys have never ridden anything else, they are too close minded to get on a quality bike just the company wasn't started in the US. It's so very sad. By the way AMF poured money into Harley to get the reliability up. With out them Harley would have died.
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#18
10-25-2003, 02:32 AM
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last time i checked after AMC bought Harley the quality went down the drain, so to speak, thats why harley ended up buying it back....and i have ridden other bikes so this isn't a "close minded" opinion (i.e. i'm not just a Harley fan)
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#19
02-19-2004, 10:02 PM
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Re: Harley Davidson VRSCA V-Rod
Does any one else remember the Harley VR1000 super bike besides me? It was just shy of 61 c.i.d. (996cc) that produced 150hp and 100+ torque at 10Ks. No push rods here, it had quad cams, 4v.p.c. and liquid cooling just like the V-Rod. Harley designed and manufactured the engines for the racing team because it was a small production run. To keep it affordable (and cost affective), Harley took the design to different manufactures and Porsce got the thumbs-up. They didn't just slap a bike together and stick a twin in it. There was many years of r&d that went along with it. ---Mercury Marine produced engines for the (legendary) ZR-1 Corvette, did that make it any less of a Chevy?
I'm not trashing people that ride metric bikes, I for one have had my share of Hondas. I rode moto-X for many years and my street-terror machines were 600cc thumpers. My nick name in school wasn't "Wheelie" for nothing. I had one of the new Ninjas when they were first introduced and blew my share of Hogs off the road. I was young and crazy at one time and was hell on 2 wheels too. With age you aquire different tasts. I have seen these guys rumble up to the local bike shop on their decked out Vulcans and Shadows wearing the leather duds and trying to be all cool. I can't help but wonder why some one would try to be such a want-a-be. To each his own, but for me it would have to be the real McCoy. ---When this dude on a (real) Harley came thundering up, everyone's mouth just about dropped to the ground. American heavy chrome, real bruteness, and the throbbing in your guts, I haven't seen any ricer do that. It was priceless to be there at that moment--- Harley made their engines to produce the sound that most people like, and that every body recognizes. The crank shaft used in most ricers makes for a smoothe and mellowy tone where the Hog makes a more thundery noise. You really can't compare the V-Rod to the regular Harley, there are too many differences. You would be surprised how similar the engine of the V-Rod is to the metric counterpart. I am financially secure and have considered getting another bike. I would love to have a new 999, but being 6'3" has its drawbacks. I'm too big for a bike that small, so I have decided that the V-rod is the bike for me. I have a closet full of Harley gear, I wouldn't feel right on a Ricer. I wouldn't want to be looked upon as a panzi either (not that peeps on Metrics are, but people that ride Harleys look at the guys on ricer cruisers that way). This is my 2cent's worth. ---TEX---
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#20
02-19-2004, 11:23 PM
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Re: Harley Davidson VRSCA V-Rod
wow, and i thought the domestic vs import deal was bad when it came to cars.
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