Spe-V vs WRX

[nismo_pilot]

lol the sti will crush any spec from a stop, but the regular wrx will get crushed from a roll, my friend and i rolled on from 45 and i walked him 3 times in a row like nothing, the sti though i dont want any peice of......hehehehe

[nissanstreetz]

it all depends on the driver I've seen an SRT4 on the track with nitrous run 14's it was pretty ridiculous so I guess anythings possible

[slideways...]

haha that guy got owned by his own riceness

[nismo_pilot]

srt4 run 14's with nitrous? kinda slow dont you think?

[ProZach626]

i've seen the srt4 run a 13.2 on the track stock. I almost bought one... I love those cars but they are way to American made for me.

[nismowu]

Originally Posted by MightyMetallica

Here is a little bit of information about each car:

2002 Subaru WRX ...
Curb Weight: ~3100 lbs
Engine: 2.0L High Output Turbocharged DOHC
Horsepower: 227 @ 6k RPM
Torque: 217 @ 4k RPM
0-60: 5.1 sec
Top Speed: ~150mph
Base MSRP: ~$25k

2002 Nissan SE-R Spec V ...
Curb Weight: ~2710 lbs
Engine: 2.5L V4 engine
Horsepower: 175 @ 6k RPM
Torque: 180 @ 4k RPM
0-60: 7.4 sec
Top Speed: ~130mph
Base MSRP: ~$18k

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the WRX....0-60 in 5.1, that's for sti right? thought non sti need longer than that,

and.....the Sentra engine, 2.5L V4??? u mean 2.5L, 16V?

[Chiquae07]

is that possible, to run 14's in a srt-4 with nitrous?????? it might have been a rebadged one or the driver was retarded....

[nismo_pilot]

maybe it was a neon......

[Chiquae07]

all you need is a body kit, the rims, and the badge, it turns into a 'srt-4' but no turbo....

[SR20B12]

Well the fact is you line up a HO/turboed car with AWD ,to a N/A car with alittle more than half the HP. this is not a match or a race.It's a beating. so to compair these cars side by side is spec V wet dreams. not going to happen.

[ProZach626]

I agree. That's pretty much the bottom line no matter what statistics you bring in. The big difference i see? WRX starts around 30k. Spec V starts in upper teens. When it's a 10k difference the answer is: you pay more you get more. Spec is a great car but no wrx. That's like trying to compare the srt4 to a viper.

[nismo_pilot]

the sti has double horsepower, the wrx isnt all that, ive taken them down before, but the sti is a freakin monster, dont even try

[klohiq]

Originally Posted by MightyMetallica

Here is a little bit of information about each car:

2002 Subaru WRX ...
Curb Weight: ~3100 lbs
Engine: 2.0L High Output Turbocharged DOHC
Horsepower: 227 @ 6k RPM
Torque: 217 @ 4k RPM
0-60: 5.1 sec
Top Speed: ~150mph
Base MSRP: ~$25k

2002 Nissan SE-R Spec V ...
Curb Weight: ~2710 lbs
Engine: 2.5L V4 engine
Horsepower: 175 @ 6k RPM
Torque: 180 @ 4k RPM
0-60: 7.4 sec
Top Speed: ~130mph
Base MSRP: ~$18k



Here's my final verdict:

It would take quite a few mods for a Spec V to keep up with a WRX. If you were both already driving, you'd be able to keep up with it until the max speed is exceeded. From a start, though, you'd be blown out of the water. If the WRX driver is experienced, he'd get his car up to 3500 RPM (point at which the turbo kicks in) immediately and let you eat his dust. There are only two statistics in which the Spec V beats the WRX: price and curb weight. With curb weight, there is only a 400 lbs difference (give or take), and the extra 52hp and 27lbs of torque more than make up for that. Now that leaves us with the price. Yes, you save about $7k by purchasing a Spec V, but you put in a turbo kit, and that'll run you about $3000 (depends what stage you want to go) for the kit and another $1000 for labor (unless you can get a discount off that). The issue with aftermarket mods is that you must get them tweaked quite often. You're just plain better off getting the WRX. If you planned on upgrading the WRX's turbo, you just need to buy the turbo itself, rather than a whole kit, which makes installation a lot easier too.

Top speed on a spec v is about 140mph or so stock and it's rev-limited at about 163mph...so even with mods you will never eclipse that without some sort of gearing changes.

The WRX, though I've never actually driven one, maxes out around 140 also.

The spec v's engine is not a V4, but rather an I4. The only V4 engines I know about were made by honda and used on motorcycles.

0-60mph times are a very bad indication of actual acceleration since they have no scope as to why the car is pulling those numbers. A 1/4mile comparison would be much better as a basis for comparison. And although most magazines say that a stock spec v runs a 15.7, I ran a 15.6 on my second attempt at the 1320 in any car...and with info from other b15 owners I'd definitely put the stock performance at about 14.9-15.2@88-90mph. The WRX in stock form pulls mid 14s with a decent driver...although slightly faster than the spec v...you can attribute that mostly to the awd traction in the first 60ft as many have already explained.

Originally Posted by SR20B12

Well the fact is you line up a HO/turboed car with AWD ,to a N/A car with alittle more than half the HP. this is not a match or a race.It's a beating. so to compair these cars side by side is spec V wet dreams. not going to happen.

lol...it's not quite that big of a difference when you look at a dyno of each car. Take a minute and consider the differences in the engine alone, one is a 2.0L turbo and the other is n/a that is essentially stroked from the factory. Then consider that the spec v has 6 speeds while the wrx has 5. Also consider that the spec v has less weight AND less driveline loss. In the end you come up with two cars that are very different and have very different strengths.

From a roll, especially at near highway speeds (40-60+) the spec v will kill the wrx. From a stop without a clutch dump the spec v and wrx will be about even most of the way with the wrx winning at the end. With the proper and abusive 5000+rpm clutch dump on the wrx you will kill a spec v and eventually damage your drivetrain.

[Chiquae07]

too bad there isn't a video game that has the spec V in it...otherwise id try it even tho they are mostly not that accurate. id have to say a sti vs. spec v is a beating.

[nismo_pilot]

i just want to make everyone aware of the fact that the wrx and the sti are two different cars, and with that statement i back up the statement klohiq made when he said the spec would beat the wrx from a roll at highway speeds, assuming that roll was from about 45, teh spec sucks high end.....lol