Which car did you hate the most?

[Oldengineer]

My mechanic doesn't like me very much. If it's not covered under warranty on the factory's wallet, then I usually do my own wrenching on my cars. That was one of big problems with the three Chrysler dealers that worked on my lemon - they spent more time trying to bullshit me, than fixing my car. Their problem - I'm an ex-GM engineer, and, have been working on the family fleet since I was 14 years old (long time ago). I have no problem paying a competent mechanic to do work I'm not equipped to do in my home garage. I do however have a big problem with ones that turn out shoddy work, or, try to convince you the problem is non-exisitant. For example: The dealer mechanics that rebuilt the tranny in my Sebring the first go around actually ripped off all the heat shields off both cat. convertors on my V6 when they pulled the tranny. Instead of simply unbolting them, they chopped them out and destroyed them. They also broke part of the engine's induction system as well. I filled a formal complaint with Chrysler, and, forced them to replace all the missing/damaged parts under warranty.

Regards:
Oldengineer

[serge_saati]

I don't like these kind of mechanics. They make mistakes, and they don't admit it.

[jetsfan1128]

Originally Posted by Oldengineer

My mechanic doesn't like me very much. If it's not covered under warranty on the factory's wallet, then I usually do my own wrenching on my cars. That was one of big problems with the three Chrysler dealers that worked on my lemon - they spent more time trying to bullshit me, than fixing my car. Their problem - I'm an ex-GM engineer, and, have been working on the family fleet since I was 14 years old (long time ago). I have no problem paying a competent mechanic to do work I'm not equipped to do in my home garage. I do however have a big problem with ones that turn out shoddy work, or, try to convince you the problem is non-exisitant. For example: The dealer mechanics that rebuilt the tranny in my Sebring the first go around actually ripped off all the heat shields off both cat. convertors on my V6 when they pulled the tranny. Instead of simply unbolting them, they chopped them out and destroyed them. They also broke part of the engine's induction system as well. I filled a formal complaint with Chrysler, and, forced them to replace all the missing/damaged parts under warranty.

Regards:
Oldengineer

i feel you sir i spent my whole life working with my dad and 4 years in class i'd work on my mother and step fathers cars but they got warrentys so my mother's wheel is shaking and she takes it in check tires thats all i send her back to make them check the hub make sure its not warped and check drive-line vibration typical grees monkey then tells her there all like that and there not going to do anything becuase i dont even think they know what drive line vibration is that was a month ago with her brand new kia(junk) then my step fathers truck had a check engine light on ruptured evap diagphram the mech. he trust has one of his guys fixes this 2 weeks later the codes back small evap leak they tell my s-father its a emession leak and he cant tell what emission sys. it is so i just happen to be over with my fancy 20 doller pocket scan tool and inform the mechanic ohhhh he was not happy seing as my ignorant step father relized when they worked on the evap system they didnt put it back together tight lets just say he got a couple free oil changes and an oppertunity to scream

[serge_saati]

Which model is the Kia? I don't think that all Kia are like that.

About your step father's truck, an evap leak is not important at all. It only cause more vapor emission. It affect the environment only. Caused most of the time by rust underneath truck.

BTW, why so many peoples neglect anti-rust treatment?

[jetsfan1128]

Originally Posted by serge_saati

Which model is the Kia? I don't think that all Kia are like that.

About your step father's truck, an evap leak is not important at all. It only cause more vapor emission. It affect the environment only. Caused most of the time by rust underneath truck.

BTW, why so many peoples neglect anti-rust treatment?

its the sorento and i know it didnt come like that but instead fixing it because most mech. dont know alot about drive line vibration they f'd her over and told her it was supose to be like that when all that extra vibration might cause problems in the future and my mom even knew that cause the one she test drove didnt do it i dont like mechanics like this who neglect problems becuase they dont know

and his truck they did work on the evap system erased the code and then a code poped up 2 weeks later(after a drive cycle) that there was a small leak then wouldent tell them what the code specificaly ment cuz he would of known that they just worked on the system that has the problem now i come with my scan tool tell him its a small evap leak and he says it was just broght in for an evap repair an anyone can put to and to together

for your question i would have to say a mix of ignorance not knowing about anti rust treatment and most pll only planing on owning there car for the 100,000 mile warrenty and trading it in so they dont care but there would be alot of beautiful cars still around if they didnt

[Oldengineer]

Jetsfan:

You gotta love these guys. I once asked a dealer to put a new pollen filter in my car while it was being serviced. The idiot that worked on it got heavy handed and cracked my windshield across the bottom - about a 6" crack. Should have heard them trying to talk their way out of fixing it. Ended up costing the dealer $700 to fix my car.

Regards:
Oldengineer

[jetsfan1128]

Oldengineer; seriously i mean i can do most work on car but if i dont know what im doing or im sceptical ill get someone else or ask someone and i dont even have a head tech next to me, these mech. have a head tech sitting right there but cuz of pride or just thinking therethey can do everything like a nascar pit stop(as fast as possible) they mess everything up. i feel sorry for the person who dosent know and could get charged that 700 that you got them to pay for becuase they dont know much about cars and auto class is the best investment you can make even if its not ur specialty

[Shpuker]

well we all seem to agree on one thing, my mom took her car to Big-O to get her tires rotated, the damn mechanics didn't tighten the lugnuts.... and funny story my sister hit a deer going 75 in her truck all it did was trash the bumper and head light lol. I don't think she'll ever get all the guts cleaned off.

[PashaDNN]

Originally Posted by Shpuker

my mom took her car to Big-O to get her tires rotated, the damn mechanics didn't tighten the lugnuts....

Tightening lug nuts to spec is like breathing. It must always be done.

[tix_xx]

Funny, I just filled out an online car survey where I was asked which I I would never want to own. I wonder what scientists will do with the information - but apparently I will receive a "personal profile".
Here is the link if you would also want to tell science about your most hated car - but also about car fanatics:
www.unipark.de/uc/drive/

[ryanfrompoco]

ant dodge minivan they were terrible had a 98 and went through 3 tranny rebilds and said screw it and junked it and bought my f250 and now I am glad.

[Shpuker]

Originally Posted by ryanfrompoco

ant dodge minivan they were terrible had a 98 and went through 3 tranny rebilds and said screw it and junked it and bought my f250 and now I am glad.

Umm not sure what language that was but you probaly shoulda not let them screw you over on the rebuild

[Lange92]

Chrysler/Dodge products. Absolutely terrible to average at best. You find many Chrysler hate sites over the internet more than any vehicle manufacturer. Chrysler has made so much garbage over the years and basically besides their trucks and a few models they don't even come close to other manufacturers in terms of quality. The only thing decent about dodge is their trucks, their cars can be decent at times, but many reliability issues and just little crap things that happen. One Dodge vehicle I can name that has had unexcuseable problems is the early 2000's Dodge Durangos are just terrible for engine sludge problems that have made the vehicles undriveable. Guess what Dodge a lot of the time would just blame the problem on the owner saying it was"lack of maitience or some bull. Very terrible deal.

Also another huge problem dodge is known for the is 2.7 L mitsubishi engine in the interpids and it might of been in another Chrysler vehicle. Absolute piece of crap engine with so many problems. Chrysler often wouldn't admit their fault for this either. Also in the mix we have histories of faulty transmissions, seatbelts, unreliablity you name it. Not that all manufactures haven't had their own crapsies before but dodge certainly has been extremely bad to the point of just wow. I can't name all of the issues but those are just some. Google dodge Chyrsler problems and you will find much information to expand upon what I said. If your a Dodge fan thats cool, but in all honesty its hard to see whats going for them.

[Shpuker]

If you put any brand name in front of problems your
Gona get a big ass list off hate sites. I've had 3 dodges and none of them had any major problems

[Shpuker]

And chevy is the most notorious american car maker for having problems in major systems. A bunch of my friends have had Chevys and absolutly hated them