triptronic racing....

[flylwsi]

if your car blips the throttle for you, it's an automatic.
whether you're manually shifting it or not...

that's why the FIA is banning "fully automatic transmissions"

and if you want to get techy about it,

bmw's smg trans is not a sequential.

it's the same 6 spd, but shifted via paddle, without a clutch.

so is the 360F1. both of which have an automatic mode.

same with any porsche with tiptronic.

they don't have clutches, b/c they're not fully manual.

if the machine is doing the work, it's automatic. regardless of what the tranny is that's being driven, if you're not shifting, then it's doing it automatically, yes?

F1 trannies are the highest form of the said technology, where everything has streamed down from.

the car controls the clutch, the throttle, everything really...
all you do is tell it when to shift.

that's not even the slightest bit automatic?

i'm well aware of the difference b/n sequential and automatic trannies, however, the fact that the FIA calls the trannies in the cars "fully automatic" should get a hint across.

i'm willing to concede that they're not "automatic" in the traditional sense... yes...

it was simply part of my point about auto trannies being able to be raced and not blowing up.

why nit pick?
i'll back up everything i'm saying if you really want me to.

[Neutrino]

just take it like a man and admit you were wrong

[Polygon]

Originally posted by 94delsolSI
whoever has said that automatics cant handle power. once you get to a certain power it is recommended to go automatic and about most drag cars being automatic they all are how would you like to go through your gears in 6 seconds wouldnt be very enjoyable let alone getting a stage 5 clutch down

No, they're not. I have seen the clutches from top fuel drag cars. They don't have shifters like a normal manual. They have three levers and they pull them in succession.

Trust me, with 7000HP an automatic would be ripped to shreds.

I can't believe how many people have a hard time deciphering between what is a manual transmission and what is an automatic transmission. It is not how it is shifted that makes what kind of transmission it is. It is how the transmission works that decides that. And they manually shift in Formula 1 and Rally. I don't see how you can't see the difference between the two. They are VASTLY different.

[Self]

Originally posted by Polygon


No, they're not. I have seen the clutches from top fuel drag cars. They don't have shifters like a normal manual. They have three levers and they pull them in succession.

Trust me, with 7000HP an automatic would be ripped to shreds.

I can't believe how many people have a hard time deciphering between what is a manual transmission and what is an automatic transmission. It is not how it is shifted that makes what kind of transmission it is. It is how the transmission works that decides that. And they manually shift in Formula 1 and Rally. I don't see how you can't see the difference between the two. They are VASTLY different.

Agreed, it's not how you shift, it's what kind of tranny it is, bottom line.

[flylwsi]

since we're getting overly technical about the type of trans and how things work in it... i'll leave it alone.

[newrsx]

ok so...triptronic....get some power and switch to automatic? rite?

[flylwsi]

we're talking extremes.

your car will be better with a manual now, and most import drag racers run manual trannies...

you're not going to be as quick with your factory tranny unless you modify it...

[flylwsi]

oh yeah...

it's TIP tronic, not TRIP.

[ericonline]

Ya I am curious i.e. not so very smart, about this. I think the Import Tuner crowd (I don't know what catagory or any of that), the guys that run tube frame, special light weight, purpose built drag racers use what?

I'm asking because I want to learn more. The "big boyz" run automatics on the drag strip right? Well then I would think that the top class Import draggers are ?? using an automatic? O.k. I just thought, maybe they use a manual tranny with some type of air shifter?

Who knows? And the biggest question, who builds up these trannys?

[iNgLi$]

http://autozine.kyul.net/technical_s...ear_manual.htm

[stilfly]

Well i have an 02 rsx with a Greddy 16g setup i make about 350 to the wheels and guess what its on a automatic tranny. triptronic shifters behind the wheel custom job. But i agree with both sides because as soon as i got to about 250hp and the drag radials the tranny blew in 2 gear, but the thing is i got another tranny had a custom torque converter installed. yea and it holds and just for the guy who posted the forum. The way u race a triptonic rsx is 1,2,3,4,5 just shift at the highest rpm thats the only way ur gonna make power but just remember its a automatic so the triptronic's sux off the line ur better of doing a roll from like 25 mph and shift in 1st and pedal to the floor u can chirp 1 and 2 with the car. But i kno for a fact my tranny will hold and after christmas will be the real test when i to the turbo upgrade dual ball barring baby.

[GForce957]

Guess what

No one on this thread cares!

U know why? cause its several years ago smartie pants

Read when post dates before you join in.

[DinanM3_S2]

I have gotten so tired of explaining to people the difference between an automatic and a sequential transmission. All im going to say is that you cant really categorize them as either manual or automatic. They don't use planetary gearboxes like an automatic, nor an H-gate setup like a manual. They are not tiptronic. They are simply sequential transmissions.

Read this-
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/sequential-gearbox.htm

"A sequential manual transmission is not to be confused with a "tiptronic" sort of automatic transmission. The tiptronic system may duplicate the shift lever motion of a sequential gearbox. However, because a tiptronic transmission is an automatic transmission at its core, it still has the torque converter and usually does not shift as quickly." (How Stuff Works)

PS. Just because it has paddle shifters doesn't mean it has a sequential transmission. Some companies are starting to offer paddle shifters to automatic/tiptronic style transmissions. The new Lexus IS350 has paddle shifters but they are connected to an automatic transmission.

[crunchymilk55]

lol @ this thread

I saw some of the users posting and I knew something wasn't right

[Ace$nyper]

Whoever dug this up?

I miss some of the posters here.

Self was cool as fuck.