Illegal Aliens Caught on Trail Cams

[mellowboy]

Originally Posted by bagwanshrirashnish

Uncomfortable?!? So freaking what? I don't want the people sneaking into my country illegally to BE AT ALL COMFORTABLE! Screw them!

I think we have much bigger issues than illegals. What I meant by his comment being uncomfortable was that it was harsh.

Here's a successful illegal immigrant story that a friend of mine met in person since they're both neuro surgeons...

http://www.wbaltv.com/family/1117731...s=bal&psp=news

[mellowboy]

Originally Posted by 03cavPA

Gohan, look what you did. You need to get in touch with your sensitive side, ya ill-mannered lout.

Great!

[03cavPA]

Originally Posted by mellowboy

Here's a successful illegal immigrant story that a friend of mine met in person since they're both neuro surgeons...

Ah, yes. The end justifies the means, eh? It's a slippery slope at best.

Almost 14 million illegals and counting, and we only get one brain surgeon out of the bunch? Doesn't sound too cost effective to me.

If his story is even true. It could be hard to prove/disprove, since he broke the law to get here and there might not be enough legal records to back up his early history. It makes a really nice news centerpiece for La Raza and MALDEF, though.

[mellowboy]

Originally Posted by 03cavPA

Ah, yes. The end justifies the means, eh? It's a slippery slope at best.

Almost 14 million illegals and counting, and we only get one brain surgeon out of the bunch? Doesn't sound too cost effective to me.

If his story is even true. It could be hard to prove/disprove, since he broke the law to get here and there might not be enough legal records to back up his early history. It makes a really nice news centerpiece for La Raza and MALDEF, though.

The point is (which I think you missed it), is that we shouldn't generalize and give them a chance to say the least. Yeah my fam came here legally with going through the system and I could say this isn't fair because Mexicans coming here without going through the legal system but givin under the circumstances, Mexico is a hell hole for the less fortunate ones. I think US gov't should enforce them to get education if they want to be citizens here, just as they do with the refugees.

[03cavPA]

Originally Posted by mellowboy

The point is (which I think you missed it), .......

I understood your point; I simply disagree with it. I maintain that it's a slippery slope, and it's precisely what causes the problems we face now with respect to immigration and 13 million + illegal aliens in this country.

AFAIC, one brain surgeon does not negate illegal behavior, nor does it justify looking the other way, even in his case. The fact remains, he broke the law to get here.

Perhaps my sense of ethics is less elastic than yours?

I can agree, in part, that present immigration policy might have problems and may need revamping, but we still have to deal with the drain on our resources at present. We also need to enforce our existing laws until such point as we do see fit to amend them.

[Gohan Ryu]

Originally Posted by 03cavPA

Gohan, look what you did. You need to get in touch with your sensitive side, ya ill-mannered lout.

Does this mean the email I got about being nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize is a scam? All they want is a $500 processing fee!

[Gohan Ryu]

Originally Posted by mellowboy

Here's a successful illegal immigrant story that a friend of mine met in person since they're both neuro surgeons...

http://www.wbaltv.com/family/1117731...s=bal&psp=news

That's a great story. Unfortunately for every 1 success story there a thousand stories like this one:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1878747/posts
http://www.kgw.com/news-local/storie....8239bb19.html

These two criminals were caught and brought to justice, but there are hundreds more cases like this where the criminals fled to Mexico and the Mexican gov't won't allow extradition.

Originally Posted by mellowboy

I think we have much bigger issues than illegals.

What bigger issues do you mean? Americans aren't raping and murdering Mexicans, we're not going to their country and creating a blight on their communities...we're only trying to keep them from entering our country illegally. What issues do we have besides the fact that we oppose the rape and murder of 15 year old girls?

[03cavPA]

Originally Posted by Gohan Ryu

Does this mean the email I got about being nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize is a scam? All they want is a $500 processing fee!

Well, I didn't want to rain on your parade .............................

Originally Posted by Gohan Ryu

What issues do we have besides the fact that we oppose the rape and murder of 15 year old girls?

The 10 year olds really set us off, though.

http://www.daytondailynews.com/n/con...nesrapist.html

Child rapist sentenced to life

Tuesday, March 04, 2008

DAYTON — A judge on Monday sentenced a Dayton man to life in prison for raping a 10-year-old girl.

Adrian Garcia-Garcia, 23, pleaded guilty Feb. 11 to rape and one count of importuning a child under 13.
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Judge A. J. Wagner of Montgomery County Common Pleas Court sentenced Garcia-Garcia to life on the rape and five years on the importuning charge.

Authorities deported Garcia-Garcia to Mexico in August 2007 because he was in this country illegally.

He returned to Dayton about a month later and moved in with his girlfriend, according to county Prosecutor Mathias Heck Jr.

On Oct. 22, Dayton police were called to Childrens Medical Center on a report of a child rape. The investigation led to Garcia-Garcia's arrest and conviction.

Seems like a waste of a perfectly good jail cell to me. Bullets don't cost much.

[mellowboy]

Originally Posted by Gohan Ryu

What bigger issues do you mean? Americans aren't raping and murdering Mexicans,

No but Americans have high rates of rape domestic voilence and murdering there own relatives (children murdering there parents and vice versa) etc...

Am I right?

[thegladhatter]

Originally Posted by mellowboy

I think we have much bigger issues than illegals. What I meant by his comment being uncomfortable was that it was harsh.

Here's a successful illegal immigrant story that a friend of mine met in person since they're both neuro surgeons...

http://www.wbaltv.com/family/1117731...s=bal&psp=news

I don't give a shit about ANY successful ILLEGAL aliens. They are illegal....THEY AUTOMATICALLY FAIL!!

Bigger issues?!? Okay if you have a house of cards and you remove cards from any point....the house will fall. Sure there are other issues, but there are also many important issues. Illegal aliens is an issue of the utmost importance. It deals with NATIONAL SECURITY. We need to seal our boarders. If you try to get into ANY other country you will find it MUCH more difficult.

[thegladhatter]

Originally Posted by mellowboy

No but Americans have high rates of rape domestic voilence and murdering there own relatives (children murdering there parents and vice versa) etc...

Am I right?

No you are LEFT! Those issues have NOTHING to do with the issue of illegals.

[03cavPA]

Originally Posted by mellowboy

No but Americans have high rates of rape domestic voilence and murdering there own relatives (children murdering there parents and vice versa) etc...

Are you saying that it's OK to break the law initially to enter the country, then commit more crime once you're here, since the citizens of this country commit crimes?

That's messed up. No way anybody's going to agree with that.

[thegladhatter]

This guy is SWORN to enforce the laws of the land. Just look at the list of liberal anal pores who think it is necessary to investigate him for doing what he has sworn to do!!

Justice Dept. Investigates Arizona Sheriff for Enforcing Immigration Law
Thursday, March 12, 2009
By Penny Starr, Senior Staff Writer

(CNSNews.com) - The Department of Justice (DOJ) has launched an investigation of the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office in Arizona following requests by congressional Democrats and allegations by liberal activists that the department has violated the civil rights of illegal aliens.

Reps. John Conyers (D-Mich.), Jerrold Nadler (D-N.Y.), Zoe Lofgren (D-Calif.), and Robert Scott (D-Va.) requested the investigation, and activists groups such as National Day Laborer Organizer Network and ACORN launched petition drives and rallies in support of the probe.

The investigation focuses on Sheriff Joe Arpaio and dozens of officers under his command who were trained through the Department of Homeland Security's Immigration and Customs Enforcement's Agreements of Cooperation in Communities to Enhance Safety and Security (ACCESS), which partners federal and local law enforcement to enforce immigration laws. (The Homeland Security’s Immigration and Customs Enforcement division is known popularly as ICE.)

In a letter dated March 10, 2009, Loretta Smith, acting assistant attorney general at the DOJ, detailed what her department would be investigating:

"This is to inform you that the United States Department of Justice is commencing an investigation of the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office (''MCSO'') pursuant to the pattern or practice provisions of the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994,42 U.S.C. §14141 ("Section 14141") and the Omnibus Crime Control and Safe Streets Act of 1968,42 U.S.C. § 3789d ("Safe Streets Act"), and pursuant to the prohibitions against national origin discrimination in Title VI of the Civil Rights Act of 1964,42 U.S.C. §§ 2000d to 2000d-7 ("Title Yr') and the Safe Streets Act, 42 U.S.C. § 3789d(c)."

http://cnsnews.com/public/content/ar...x?RsrcID=44899

[03cavPA]

Yeah, I saw that, too. That sheriff does a great job and his constituents are quite happy with his performance.

This government is bound and determined to undermine us and our stability. They bend over for groups like ACORN at every turn.

Civil rights for illegals. If they stayed on the other side of the border, they'd be just fine.

[Gohan Ryu]

Originally Posted by mellowboy

No but Americans have high rates of rape domestic voilence and murdering there own relatives (children murdering there parents and vice versa) etc...

Am I right?

I don't know, are you right? What are your sources? Obviously they're committing rape and murder in Mexico - where do you hear that it happens more in the US than in other places? And if it does happen more in the US, why does that mean we should let illegals into our country? What does one have to do with the other?

Either way - all countries have their own criminals to deal with. The US gets the added bonus of dealing with Mexico's criminals who come mixed in with the millions of illegals. And we have no records of these criminals. No birth certificates, no state ID's, nothing. They are here anonymously and we have no way of knowing who or where they are.