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Old 10-14-2009, 10:15 PM
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Re: windstar won't start - sometimes

I got it....I just took fuel tank out from bottom and inspecting fuel pump...then I checked connector inside the fuel pump that goes to fuel pump electric motor was bad...just got heated some how and melted negetive side wire a little bit...I soldered that connector with soldergun and reinstalled everything back....and now it's been five months no problem works fine....If someone doesn't know how to do it then easy is just replace the Fuel Pump Module Assembly that cost about $220.
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Re: windstar won't start - sometimes

Wow, that should be a very hard job.
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Re: windstar won't start - sometimes

That is a great find and fix ... kinda makes me nervous that that burning could be happening inside a tank!
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Re: windstar won't start - sometimes

I am taking my windstar to the mechanic today. Everything I have tried is not working. I have not tried the fuel pump connector, I am going to mention it to the mechanic. I will let you know what happens. Hopefully Qwerasdfptc's remedy cures my problem too! This is getting to be a real pain. Thanks again!
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Re: windstar won't start - sometimes

It sounds that the Windstar need fuel to crank, it's weird. Maybe if it doesn't detect fuel pressure, it doesn't crank. So maybe it's a also fuel pump/connection problem.
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Old 10-16-2009, 06:41 PM
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Re: windstar won't start - sometimes

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It sounds that the Windstar need fuel to crank, it's weird. Maybe if it doesn't detect fuel pressure, it doesn't crank. So maybe it's a also fuel pump/connection problem.
What would detect fuel pressure?
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What would detect fuel pressure?
The fuel pressure regulator.
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Re: windstar won't start - sometimes

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I am taking my windstar to the mechanic today. Everything I have tried is not working. I have not tried the fuel pump connector, I am going to mention it to the mechanic. I will let you know what happens. Hopefully Qwerasdfptc's remedy cures my problem too! This is getting to be a real pain. Thanks again!
What they do to correct your problem?
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Old 11-16-2009, 11:07 PM
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Re: windstar won't start - sometimes

Hello everybody! It's been approx. a month since last post. The mechanic found that there was a short in the fuel pump. Replaced the pump with a new one and presto...... ( knock on wood ) starts everytime ! Now I have a new problem not related to the fuel pump. I will check the forums to find the new problem. Good luck to everyone else and hopefully this will help someone else. Oh by the way.....the mechanic only charged me $275.00 for his time and a new pump. I think he felt sorry for me..lol
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Re: windstar won't start - sometimes

First time poster... My 2002 windstar will not start all the time. It just started doing this about a month ago. Had it towed and mechanic said fuse was blown. put new fuse in and has worked fine until yesterday. Unable to hear fule pump prime. i turned key off and on 3 or 4 times and it starts. But as soon as i turn off, it won't start. Someone mentioned the battery could be at fault. When i tried to start this morning the battery was dead.. I jump started and it was fine. I wonder if failing battery could be the cause? Hate to spend 400.00 on pump just to find out my battery is the problem. Affraid to drive to parts store and turn off for a test in fear of it not starting.
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Old 11-23-2009, 03:29 PM
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Re: windstar won't start - sometimes

1) Is it Air, fuel, ignition, or timing?
2) Throw some starting fluid in the Inake,


Symptoms of a bad MAF senor is a hard start.
Disconnect the MAF sensor, and put it in a default mode, the air is measure by the TPS, and RPM's.
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Re: windstar won't start - sometimes

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1) Is it Air, fuel, ignition, or timing?
2) Throw some starting fluid in the Inake,


Symptoms of a bad MAF senor is a hard start.
Disconnect the MAF sensor, and put it in a default mode, the air is measure by the TPS, and RPM's.
The engine of Familyguy5 doesn't crank at all, so it's not the MAF.
But the trick is interesting.

Familyguy5, describe all your symptoms so you can be helped. We are not God to know what is your problem without knowing the other symptoms.

When it doesn't start, check battery voltage. If it's below 11.3V, it's the battery.
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Old 11-23-2009, 05:05 PM
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Re: windstar won't start - sometimes

As is, in Dead , gone, or yesterday!
The starter solenoid isn't enabling the starter to do it's job?

Cancer can work up into the positive cable, even though it looks good, it can drop voltage, thus the battery isn't there.

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Re: windstar won't start - sometimes

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As is, in Dead , gone, or yesterday!
The starter solenoid isn't enabling the starter to do it's job?
Maybe, but many other things can cause this problem: ignition switch, TRS, anti-theft relay, a short circuit somewhere.


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Cancer can work up into the positive cable...
It's funny that you use the word cancer for that. It's not exactly like cancer even if look like. It's more a corrosion/reduction-oxidation reaction.
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Old 11-23-2009, 06:37 PM
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Re: windstar won't start - sometimes

Profile, and whats the most probable cause!
2001/ 100k miles
battery, starter, starter solenoid, ignition switch, or cables.

90% of the time, it's just the battery or cables.

I have seen plenty of Bozo's replacing all, it was the cables.
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