G35C or 325i

[Jimster]

The BMW is likely to have better residuals- it looks clasier than the G35- is down on power but up on dynamics- I'd say if you were looking for power/torque get a G35, a classy drivers coupe- the 3-series.

Neither car will let you down in terms of reliability and dealers for both are great- however- chances are that parts for a BMW will be harder to source.

[crayzayjay]

There is a substantial power difference between the 3.5 if youre comparing it to the 325Ci. A 330Ci (Sport) is a fairer opponent and i'd pick it every time over the '35. Someone called the 330 slow well i drove one yesterday and well i dont know how fast you want your non-supercar coupes to be, cos it was a very fast car and it handles like a dream. And the interior was very nice too, im not quite understanding some of the criticisms on here...

[TatII]

don't forget to feel the fit and finish of a pontiac compared to a infinity. on the pontiac you will see big gaps between panels, you when rub your hand across the dash and feel for little things, you will notice that the pontiac will have fisher price plastic feeling interior panels. now compared the quality of the interior to a G35 or a bimmer and they will feel rock solid. just touching the materials on the 2 cars alone lets you know that they are made out of more expensive materials and feels expensive as well. case in point. before i use to not care about interior built quality and materials. i wanted my dad to buy a altima 3.5 se with full leather. i thought the interior of the altima looked better and everything then a maxima. when we both were at a dealer, he sat me down in both cars, and made me pay attention to fine details. and holy shit. the atlima feels like a toy and it feels sooo cheap compared to the maxima. even thought the altima is full optioned with leather seats.

1: if you press the button on the cup holder on the max, the door slowly opens becasue there is a gear inside along hte rails that makes it open nice and slow. mean while the same cup holder on the altima has no button and you have to manuely flip the door open and hte door's plastic flexes like rubber, and you can still see the remainly plastics on the side from the molding process int he factory.

2:also if you look underneth the car, the altima's chassis is not lined with any rubber. so it will rust easier. if you look at the maxima's, its completely lined with rubber.

3:another difference, trunk lid as well. its unlined in the altima and has wires exposed, the max is lined with carpet and the wires are hidden

those are the 3 that comes off the top of my head. there are plently more little details that makes a car just that more expensive. its all in the built quality. after i told you that, just go take a look in your car, and examine those and more, then go back to the infiniti and bmw dealer and you will see a world difference in those catergories

[bk2kmax]

Originally posted by Jimster
The BMW is likely to have better residuals- it looks clasier than the G35- is down on power but up on dynamics- I'd say if you were looking for power/torque get a G35, a classy drivers coupe- the 3-series.

Neither car will let you down in terms of reliability and dealers for both are great- however- chances are that parts for a BMW will be harder to source.

I disagree with the statement that the G is down on dynamics, what dynamics are you talking about? The comparo that was done last year with a G, 330i and Caddy's new car, the G surpassed them all (except the caddy as far as refinement in interior) the driving dynamics we're about the same and that was only because the 330i is a shorter car in overall length, the G is 112 inches long which equates to a better ride with less bumps. I also disagree with the BM looking better, if you look at the BM's it kept basically the same design for the past few years with a few cosmetic changes, otherwise the G looks better and fresher than the same played out designed BM.

The G is definitely a classy ride it has everything the BM has and more, more space in the interior, exterior, trunk, head and leg room, it has more power from the 3.5 and it gets equal gas mileage and the biggest one is that it is several thousand dollars cheaper in price.

Other than name recognition I personally don't see how anyone could possibly choose the BM over the G, I wouldn't be willing to walk another 6 to 8 thousand just to have a nameplate.
Don't get me wrong a 330i is an excellent ride, it's just IMO the G is everything the BM is and it's all that for a lot less.

[TatII]

case in point. you park a bmw 3 series or just drive around. no one cares, or bothers looking, its just another bimmer. you park or drive a G35 coupe. that thing turns heads!!

[Jimster]

Originally posted by bk2kmax


I disagree with the statement that the G is down on dynamics, what dynamics are you talking about? The comparo that was done last year with a G, 330i and Caddy's new car, the G surpassed them all (except the caddy as far as refinement in interior) the driving dynamics we're about the same and that was only because the 330i is a shorter car in overall length, the G is 112 inches long which equates to a better ride with less bumps. I also disagree with the BM looking better, if you look at the BM's it kept basically the same design for the past few years with a few cosmetic changes, otherwise the G looks better and fresher than the same played out designed BM.

The G is definitely a classy ride it has everything the BM has and more, more space in the interior, exterior, trunk, head and leg room, it has more power from the 3.5 and it gets equal gas mileage and the biggest one is that it is several thousand dollars cheaper in price.

Other than name recognition I personally don't see how anyone could possibly choose the BM over the G, I wouldn't be willing to walk another 6 to 8 thousand just to have a nameplate.
Don't get me wrong a 330i is an excellent ride, it's just IMO the G is everything the BM is and it's all that for a lot less.

I have not driven a G35 yet- but I've driven a 330i- but a friend of mine (ex E46 owner) has imported one of the new Skylines- same car as the G- he tells me that the Bimmer was teh better drivers car- not as comfy on rough roads- but the driving dynamics on a smooth road in the 3 series were just that much better. As for looks- that's your opinion- congratulations The G is too blobby and bug-eyed for my liking- the 3-series looks classy, and even sporty

[bk2kmax]

Originally posted by Jimster


I have not driven a G35 yet- but I've driven a 330i- but a friend of mine (ex E46 owner) has imported one of the new Skylines- same car as the G- he tells me that the Bimmer was teh better drivers car- not as comfy on rough roads- but the driving dynamics on a smooth road in the 3 series were just that much better. As for looks- that's your opinion- congratulations The G is too blobby and bug-eyed for my liking- the 3-series looks classy, and even sporty

No one disputes that the BMW is probably a tad better than the G but the G does everything a BM does and it does it for less with the same or greater results, the BM is too plain and vanilla looking for my taste, alot of people who drive European cars are very biased anyway. The G was voted the best looking car is recent years the BM was picked as a bland, middle of the round styling wise car, these comments came from car and driver, autoweek and several others who tested these cars against one another.
The only reason the BM seems to handle a lil bit better is because it is shorter in length.
The G looks classy and the BM looks too blobby and bug-eyed for my liking, the G is definitely a better looking more updated car than the outdated 330i exterior styling.

[crayzayjay]

Originally posted by bk2kmax

The only reason the BM seems to handle a lil bit better is because it is shorter in length.

Yes, im sure thats the only reason

nothing to do with BMW's history of producing a long line of fantastic sports saloons

[TatII]

but you also have to give nissan some credit too, they're stuff is not bad at all.

[Jimster]

Originally posted by TatII
but you also have to give nissan some credit too, they're stuff is not bad at all.

Barely- the Rrimera, Almera, Micra and Maxima QX are boring as hell, the Skyline is dead and replaced by the G35 (Not neary as good), the Silvia is gone- but the 350Z is excellent, need I go on???

[bk2kmax]

Originally posted by Jimster



Barely- the Rrimera, Almera, Micra and Maxima QX are boring as hell, the Skyline is dead and replaced by the G35 (Not neary as good), the Silvia is gone- but the 350Z is excellent, need I go on???

Obviously you're not a big fan of Nissan/Infiniti, so what are you doing here with all of your HATING? It's cool though you are entitled to your opinion, you consider a Maxima boring, then in order to do that you must drive a Corvette because you are not going to find a better, faster car for the money than a Max in this class. Just because you drive an Alfa you think your car and you are hot stuff, cars don't make people, people make cars.
It's a shame that you come here to put down other cars because you are rich enough to buy an Alfa. You're just like every other rich snob who thinks because they have a little materialism that they are somehow better, grow up and stop hating.

Alfa Romero wasn't doing to well of a job here in America either if I can recall correctly, most of their cars don't even sell here, so what is so great about their brand, they've had their share of failures as well.

[TatII]

then your also forgetin about the pulsars, the primeras, cima's, the credics, the presidents, and not to mention the Z chasis. along with the line of S chassis, and the R chassis, and what about the legendary 510's? your tellin me that nissan don't have a very very strong racing heritage? (okay now if we get to racing heritage, we take out the cima, and the president and the credic) but nissan has been kicking ass in almost every class for a very long time. nissan mostly associates with performance cars, or they always try to put performance in their entire car line up. what about the stagea? the rb powered awd station wagon? thats why i love nissan the only reason why they almost went bankcrupt was becuse they try to focus on performance only and they had bad marketing. back in the early 90's no japanese car manufacturer can stop them. and now after finally being out of debt, nissan is starting their new revolution. and its really paying off. and they are gettin alot of attention now.

[Jimster]

Originally posted by bk2kmax


Obviously you're not a big fan of Nissan/Infiniti, so what are you doing here with all of your HATING? It's cool though you are entitled to your opinion, you consider a Maxima boring, then in order to do that you must drive a Corvette because you are not going to find a better, faster car for the money than a Max in this class. Just because you drive an Alfa you think your car and you are hot stuff, cars don't make people, people make cars.
It's a shame that you come here to put down other cars because you are rich enough to buy an Alfa. You're just like every other rich snob who thinks because they have a little materialism that they are somehow better, grow up and stop hating.

Alfa Romero wasn't doing to well of a job here in America either if I can recall correctly, most of their cars don't even sell here, so what is so great about their brand, they've had their share of failures as well.

Geezus clam down.........


I am talking about the Cefiro/I30- there is no USM Maxima where I live- we don't get the 3.5 litre engine here- The 3.0 engine is great- the best in it's class by far- but the rest of the car is a let down.............It doesn't have anything on a similarly priced Alfa Romeo 166 or VW Passat 2.8- except that engine- the others however have a far better chassis- if driving is your thing.


Second of all Alfa Romeos are usually priced BELOW Nissans where I live- the Alfa Romeo 156 I drive cost me € 30,000 The Primera it competes against doesn't have a V6 but the 2.0 Acenta is €700 more than a Top of the line 2.0 JTS 156. And don't call me a rich snob- I contrast a snob...........I am not putting down any cars- I'm just saying that an Alfa Romeo or BMW is better than a G35 because they are engineered for driving- while the Infiniti has luxury in mind. I don't come here to put down cars either- when I first joined the boards I drove a Peugeot........You are the one who is "hating" not me.


And Alfa Romeo left the US 1995 because they couldn't source parts at a decent price and thier dealer network were unhelpful- but they will be back in 2007 with thier impressive range of viechles- Most of the good European brands don't sell in the US- but they sell over the rest of the world- I'd be hard pressed to find another country that the Infiniti brand is sold in................It's actually better that they don't sell cars in America- that way I can laugh at the poor suckers who are missing out.

[Jimster]

Originally posted by TatII
then your also forgetin about the pulsars, the primeras, cima's, the credics, the presidents, and not to mention the Z chasis. along with the line of S chassis, and the R chassis, and what about the legendary 510's? your tellin me that nissan don't have a very very strong racing heritage? (okay now if we get to racing heritage, we take out the cima, and the president and the credic) but nissan has been kicking ass in almost every class for a very long time. nissan mostly associates with performance cars, or they always try to put performance in their entire car line up. what about the stagea? the rb powered awd station wagon? thats why i love nissan the only reason why they almost went bankcrupt was becuse they try to focus on performance only and they had bad marketing. back in the early 90's no japanese car manufacturer can stop them. and now after finally being out of debt, nissan is starting their new revolution. and its really paying off. and they are gettin alot of attention now.

Cimas are luxury cars- hence they were designed like Luxury cars- I've never really been bothered reading up on the Cedric- but by the sounds of things it isn't that impressive- the Primera was little evolved from it's P10 form before the P12 came along- Pulsars were allright in GTiR form- but other wise they were little different from Almeras/Sunnys.

Sorry- but when I think Nissan I don't think Skyline GTR's or Silvias- I think of Trusty Pulsars and Bluebirds that were reliable, dull as dishwater day to day transport.............Nissan is not a performance brand- only a small percentage of sales come from thier performance cars- you are kidding yourself if you think they are anything other than practical day-to-day transport (With maybe 5 exceptions)

The Stagea was good- but pointless- why buy a station wagon with that sort of power???? The marketing stratergy for all estates is to sell them to sales reps to cart thier stuff around in the back- they are only expected to be cheap, economical and reliable. Station wagons were often poor cousins to thier sedan variants until Subaru raised the game with the Legacy estate in the late 80's.


Carlos Ghosn has been good for Nissan- but hasn't changed my perspective of them as dull, day to day, reliable transport.

[bk2kmax]

Nissan is not a performance brand- only a small percentage of sales come from thier performance cars- you are kidding yourself if you think they are anything other than practical day-to-day transport (With maybe 5 exceptions) "as quoted by Moderhater Jimster"

Maybe you have Nissan confused with Honda, because every car in Nissans line-up in general tends to outperform every other car brands auto in the same segment and it does it for less money too.


Another negative I drive Italian so my car is better comment from you Jimster: "I'm just saying that an Alfa Romeo or BMW is better than a G35 because they are engineered for driving- while the Infiniti has luxury in mind."

So I guess the Car of the Year for the G35 isn't engineered for driving, I don't see Alfa Romero's name on that plaque or BMW's. Like I said you are a hater and obviously overly biased towards your Italian and European with that I drive better than every car on earth attitude. You are double talking yourself to death here. If you think your Italian is so much better then why don't you go back to the Alfa Romero board/forum and put our Nissan/Infinitis down over there, not here.

Look at every car in Nissans line-up, they perform even the SUV's perform or in most cases outperform everything in its' same class and price range and in most cases in higher price ranges. Sentra SE-R outdoes just about every car in its' class and price range, all the others in its' class have to turbo or sc in order to compete. Altima is the fastest N/A fwd car in America, Maxima is the fastest car in its' class for the money, what about the M45, the Q45, the and we don't even have to go on to the Z and the G coupe, pleeease somebody wake him up.
Nissan has been doing this same thing for years so you keep on hating and we'll keep on debating, stop all of your Euroloving I'm better because it's Italian crap here.
Nissans isn't engineered for driving,<what a bogus statement.