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Re: HHO? Anyone else think of trying electrolysis?

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HHO takes a lot of energy to produce, and the amount of energy that can be retrieved is not greater than the amount introduced. That is, the energy efficiency of water electrolysis is less than 100%.

Also, water torches are used to cut steel. I'm not sure what that does to an engine, but my initial instinct is that I'm not so sure I'd do this to my car.

With all that said, be sure to report back what you find!

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I'm not sure what you are meaning by "water torches", the only things I've seen are like the one used on the "American Chopper" TV show; that is a "Water Jet" cutting system which uses grit (sand like) and extreme high water pressure to make clean cuts in metal. Not what you'd want in your engine, but the HHO system is WAY less than that!
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Re: HHO? Anyone else think of trying electrolysis?

Hi, thanks for writing.

I've not used an oxyhydrogen torch ("A water torch is a kind of oxyhydrogen torch, that is fed by oxygen and hydrogen generated on demand by water electrolysis") but from what I've read they produce very hot flames. There is a nice writeup on Wikipedia about oxyhydrogen torches. According to the Wiki article "The maximum temperature of about 2800 °C is achieved with a pure stoichiometric mixture, about 700 degrees hotter than a hydrogen flame in air.["

I'm thinking I'll stick with my 18~20 mpg in the city and 28 mpg on the highway for now...

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Footnote: Both quotes are from the Wikipedia article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxyhydrogen
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Re: HHO? Anyone else think of trying electrolysis?

Well, if you use the hydrogen and burn that as fuel through the process of electrolysis. This porcess is efficient. Your 12 volt car battery is sufficient to run the hho generator and produce enough hydrogen to to increase your mpg output. So, this is a very efficient process if done correctly. Try http://www.convert2hybrid.com
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Re: HHO? Anyone else think of trying electrolysis?

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Well, if you use the hydrogen and burn that as fuel through the process of electrolysis. This porcess is efficient. Your 12 volt car battery is sufficient to run the hho generator and produce enough hydrogen to to increase your mpg output. So, this is a very efficient process if done correctly. Try http://www.convert2hybrid.com
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Re: HHO? Anyone else think of trying electrolysis?

Well truth is that I manage to get an increase of 50% on my gas milage pulling round bout 15A supplying 1L per minute. I also managed to burn my lp gas stove with +- 180W which is less then 1/4 of the power my electric stove use. So it deffnitely works. And it deffinitely worth it. I build my cells with 30 US $ and it saving me 30 $ every month. I ran it on my nissan 1400 for 50 000 km with no negative side affects what so ever. One Golf I did use to over heat, now the fan is not even connected. Think about it.
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