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View Poll Results: To Weather or not to weather
Yes - down and dirty is the way to go 12 44.44%
No - go the nice shiny paintjob 15 55.56%
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Old 02-13-2003, 01:24 PM
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Has anyone who has seen a car that was weathered wrong. Like the way they placed the dirt how it couldn't get in one spot without getting another but they didn't do the other spot?

For Dioramas I think its essential, but if I'm putting it up to "show" I want it perfectly clean hehe, butthen I get I mostly do street cars.
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I think there is a difference between weathering and making your model look "muddy"...

Indeed, a F1 car looks "weathered" after a race, even if it looked shiny at the start. Ever seen a Le Mans racecar after a 24 hours race? No mud, but a lot of weathering tracks!

Even a rallycar that has been drving an asphalt race or even a gravel race doesn't look muddy. But very weathered!

Racecars only look shiny and clean at the start or at a motorshow. Don't get me wrong : I do like clean and shiny cars as well, but from time to time i just need to weather one to make it look a lot more realistic!

Even if a racecar is not weathered, and it's at the start of a race, it doesn't really look shiny. I have been a racecar photographer for many years now and I have seen dozens of racecars from very close : most of them are not even painted, the colors of the livery's are self-adhesive sheets and stickers, and the bodyworks are not of metal either for that matter. So the "paint" looks kinda matted, very rarely they will look really shiny like a showroom car!

But that's just one personal opinion of course!

In the pics you can see a Ferrari 250 LM (the 1965 Le Mans winner) at the end of the race, at his last pitstop. I admit, this car will be part of a diorama later on. It is not a rallycar, and still it is weathered. But do you think it looks muddy? It does look dirty, but the only dirt on the car is the rubber that it has been picking up from the track during the race...









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i voted yes, go for the weathering. i was thinking about it and if i went to someones house and they had two of the same models displayed, just in a case, and one was weathered and the other one not, i would go straight for the weathered one and check it out. it just seems cooler and it takes more work.

i say weather it
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nice!

Love the dirty models! LeMans cars do get rather dirty! I remembered being amazed at how filthy Steve McQueen's Gulf Porsche got during the race.

If it's on the real car, or conceivably on it, I like to model it. My 356 will have a rusty and paint-chipped muffler, and a dirty engine, but it's because I'm modeling the car as a daily driver, not a show queen. I think any little thing you can add that makes the car look more realistic is good in my book. Plus, weathering is fun!

I've even considered putting my Porsche in a "winter" ski-trip diorama, complete with road salt on the tires and fenders! *GASP!*

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Thanks for your responses everybody. At the moment the vote is split almost 50-50 Can't say that has helped me decide either way what to do with my NZ 206! As far as dioramas go I've already done one, with another half finished so maybe a muddy NZ diorama might be an idea some time down the track.
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However, if you mess up a paint job or decal job, weathering will be the easy way out to hide it!:flash:
Yes that is something I want to avoid, people thinking the weathering is only there brecause a good clean finish can't be achieved.
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More pics of the Corolla, please!

I think (and intend to act upon) that it's fine to have a dirty rally car, since that is often their "natural state," but also that damage is just as important as dirt. Every time I watch any rally footage, some car or other is flying off a cliff or t-boning a tree or at the very least shearing off its fenders.

Now that would make for some realism.
Jay there are more pictures of the Corolla on my website at http://rallycars.topcities.com/galle...z98-sainz.html

I agree with you about the damage, so long as it is the likes of McRae or Burns driving. Gronholm or Sainz generaly seem to mark their car a whole lot less - with some major exceptions!
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I think there is a difference between weathering and making your model look "muddy"...
Nice job there Sennake. The reason I said muddy is because on the event I'm considering, Rally New Zealand the cars don't just get "grimy", they get downright filthy! That is why they put the extra numbers on the rear windows, all the other numbers get covered with mud.
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i voted yes, go for the weathering. i was thinking about it and if i went to someones house and they had two of the same models displayed, just in a case, and one was weathered and the other one not, i would go straight for the weathered one and check it out. it just seems cooler and it takes more work.

i say weather it
Thanks Magicman that is kind of the way I'm thinking. Since I may be entering a model comp soon, I want some way to make my car stand out from the crowd.
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Nice job there Sennake. The reason I said muddy is because on the event I'm considering, Rally New Zealand the cars don't just get "grimy", they get downright filthy! That is why they put the extra numbers on the rear windows, all the other numbers get covered with mud.

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