Civic exhaust

[Scott 02]

No crap!! Im not sure how i stumbled into this thread, but i do know that NOS is cheap HP, but will cost you more than $1000 when i blows your motor and you add in the cost to get the stuff.

[markpa]

Originally posted by dirk-diggler
I think that spending $1000 on intake and exhaust just to gain 10 hp is also pretty dumb! You only ruin your engine if you do it wrong:frog: trust me, with NOS you never lose

Im not gunna even bother flaming you ill let someone else do it.

[edman24]

let me handle this one markpa. well nos is cheap hp huh? not after you go smoking your piston rings and making ovals out of your cylinders. and you say it will work if you do it right. yes i agree but doing it right takes a lot of work and money. that includes changing pistons, rings and maybe even rods. not to mention you will need an intake and exhaust to provide enough flow. even if you only run a 35 shot which is the smallest i believe, what you are doing is forcing your pistons to move a lot faster then they are designed to from the factory. this causes excessive wear on the piston rings. your car may run yes but you will have a lot of blow by. that means that the explosion in the combustion chamber blows by the piston and doesnt push it down. after a few uses your whole rings will be gone and that translates to a FULL engine rebuild. im talking almost all the moving parts you got in there not to mention your block might get f*cked. some people might run it on stock engines, i have a friend who does, but now their cars are a lot slower than they were before because of the blow by. now they have to use the nos to get any sort of power. and if he keeps doing it his engine will fail. if ive forgotten anything please excuse me. im not trying to flame you, just enlighten.......
we must all learn sometime my son.....:smoker2:

[shepworldwide]

Originally posted by dirk-diggler
I think that spending $1000 on intake and exhaust just to gain 10 hp is also pretty dumb! You only ruin your engine if you do it wrong:frog: trust me, with NOS you never lose

HA HA "whack"

[wheel1856]

cause see NOS is like crack. you try a little for the first time, and yer like WHOA BABY kick ass! you're zoomin all around, makin people nervous, feelin invincible. then you do a lil more, yeha that's it a nice 50 shot, yeah feelin good, really feelin big, but you wonder why you have trouble getting it up. but you're still zoomin. then you keep tryin that 50 shot, pretty soon your rings are lookin like the crack hoe with the bags under her eyes, you know the one, shes 30 but looks 75. pretty soon just to get off the line your shootin NOS in first, then you have to up the dose, and you keep shootin sooner and sooner, more and more, until something eventually blows up.

then what? gotta spend all that money to find a new pimp, everyone at the old corner is laughin at you, and your pistons just cant get up anymore to turn those tricks like they used to....its a sad state of affairs.

[dirk-diggler]

Yeah edman you're right, first thig that happened I blew a piston, but then I got smart, and now I got it going on. There's no point in bolting on some CRummy exhaust system when you still got a cat slowin you down, a straight pipe is the best and it's free. I'm wondering how many of you guys actually buy all that brand name tin just get get the stickers and put them all over yer cars so you can impress you little buddys to fit in. Time and time again I've seen so many Slim Shady wannabes trying to scare me with their GReddy stickers calling my car a piecce of crap, just to watch'em disapear in my rear view in the end. But that's what separates a racer from a ricer. I think too many guys out there thinking they're racers when all they know what to do is to bolt on junk that they see in magazines that overexagerate their output just because the manufacturers pay them to.
Yeah, with Nitro you gotta do more maintenance, but I've rebuilt my motor so many times I can do it with a blindfold on, unless you don't like to get your hands dirty, And don't forget if you want 20 extra horsepower, doesn't matter if you're using nitro or turbo or N/A you're still stressing the engine.

[edman24]

yup exactly my point diggler. name brands just arent worth the extra money.

[shepworldwide]

Originally posted by edman24
yup exactly my point diggler. name brands just arent worth the extra money.

you both are wrong..yet this my be true for intakes

[RoBoDEATH]

my exhaust is farely name brand and i like it better than any i've ever heard

[edman24]

hey shep thats big talking for someone with no reason. prove me wrong then ill listen............

[Scott 02]

name brands just arent worth the extra money

Your right. When you pay $120 for a Borla you are basically paying $40 for the Name and the extra garbage that comes with them. My Exhaust was cheap and easy....nuff said...

[wheel1856]

now I think there is a happy medium here that is being over looked...

frankly if I had to choose between a muffler from GReddy or Skunk2 versus a muffler from Bubba Industries, Im likely to go with the name brand.

true, many times you are just paying for the name and can find something just as good, if not better, for MUCH less money, especially when it comes to exhausts. theres a great muffler shop around here, and all Im buying for my exhaust that will cost alot is a header (I want stainless) and a universal muffler that doesnt sound like a taco bell late at night. the rest is custom and cheap, pipes is pipes (catalytic schmatalitic we dont have exhaust checks!).

now one may say you get what you pay for, true, but why overpay for it?

[edman24]

very well put wheel. in some cases yes it may be good to go name brand but for exhausts, its really not worth the extra money. i wish i had acces to a dyno and some different exhaust setups that way i could prove my point.

[shepworldwide]

aaa hummm dyno never lies... while in the case of an intake name might not matter that much..name brand exausts all have dyno results.
so if you want to peice together an exaust for more power you have to #1 peice together your system $$
#2 pay to have it installed (if you don't weld) $$$$
#3 take it to the dyno and see if you gained any hp $$$

or you buy your exaust from a brand name company who has done all the dyno work and taken the TIME&RESEARCH to make sure you get the best bends...
you dicide. if you just want a loud exaust take a hammer and smash it through your muffler
schools out

[KrNxRaCer00]

Originally posted by markpa
Its actually simple, do you want hot air or cold air to come into the engine?

it isn't going to matter that much. look at the gains, don't jus look at what it says it will do. you really think drawing in intake from a food extra away, that you are going to see any bigger gains? maybe 1-2 hp...which is nothing u will ever notice. so in the end, it DOESN'T matter if you get CAI or short ram. jus the CAI is going to be a waste of extra money for no noticable gain.