Thank you Captain Obvious

[Monkey-Magic-S15-R]

Originally posted by Cbass


Well actually, during the early years of the war, the Germans sent light Heinkel bombers after ports and industrial targets, with the exception of an incident over London, where a bomber mistakenly released it's munitions over the city.

From the very start, the British, and later the Americans, carpet bombed any German city they could reach. It was murder, and bomber command knew it, there were no German soldiers in those homes, there were women and children. It's called terror bombing, and the British invented it.

It's more than just defending their country, it's fighting for their very existence. They've been bombed and starved for over a decade, had acts of war committed on a daily basis, and now they finally going to have a chance to shoot back... I can only imagine what they are feeling right now.

i doubt that it was just one insident over london .............. i doubt that very much

[Cbass]

Originally posted by Monkey-Magic-S15-R


not to offend anyone with my utter naivity of Army tactics but that sounds like a siege and if so i'd set up sniper across the city to take out anyone with a gun

its a pity they haven't got anything which can detect Guns and bullets or anything like that .......... altho i think thats a bit star trekkified

They don't need to be in firing range, they can kill anyone or anything that comes near the city, and bomb out their power and water infrastructure. That would be the wise thing to do, if Bush actually gives a damn about saving American lives, which I don't believe he does, judging by the fact he's starting an unneccessary and immoral war.

[Monkey-Magic-S15-R]

Originally posted by Cbass


They don't need to be in firing range, they can kill anyone or anything that comes near the city, and bomb out their power and water infrastructure. That would be the wise thing to do, if Bush actually gives a damn about saving American lives, which I don't believe he does, judging by the fact he's starting an unneccessary and immoral war.

by definition i thought US WAR = Massive bombing campaign

[Cbass]

That's pretty much the scope of it, except this time the objective is to completely remove the current government, which is a legal government of a sovereign nation.

I think the US/UK propaganda is quite entertaining, on how he's an oppressive dictator, and how his people want to overthrow him... I think it might be quite a shocker when Americans and Brits start coming home in body bags

[Monkey-Magic-S15-R]

Originally posted by Cbass
That's pretty much the scope of it, except this time the objective is to completely remove the current government, which is a legal government of a sovereign nation.

I think the US/UK propaganda is quite entertaining, on how he's an oppressive dictator, and how his people want to overthrow him... I think it might be quite a shocker when Americans and Brits start coming home in body bags

i heard his sons shoot people and rape women and that its never publised in the news. Hey this apparently came from a ex CIA historian type fellow but i wouldn't know if its the truth.

Since WW1 and WW2 the middle-east has been a bloody mess and its about time Europe, Russia and the US set things straight because there's been nothing but chaos ever since.

[Cbass]

Originally posted by Monkey-Magic-S15-R


i heard his sons shoot people and rape women and that its never publised in the news. Hey this apparently came from a ex CIA historian type fellow but i wouldn't know if its the truth.

Possibly, I can't comment on that, I'm not well enough informed about them.

Originally posted by Monkey-Magic-S15-R


Since WW1 and WW2 the middle-east has been a bloody mess and its about time Europe, Russia and the US set things straight because there's been nothing but chaos ever since.

The reason the region has been a bloody mess is because of the meddling of the western world. I believe if we leave them to sort it out themselves, we might even see peace...

[Monkey-Magic-S15-R]

Originally posted by Cbass


The reason the region has been a bloody mess is because of the meddling of the western world. I believe if we leave them to sort it out themselves, we might even see peace...

ahh but its all linked to the ottoman empire when they united with Germany. They had to split the empire up so you are left with what you have today

[Cbass]

While that played a part in it, it's minor compared to the influence of the British and the Americans who took their place.

[Monkey-Magic-S15-R]

Originally posted by Cbass
While that played a part in it, it's minor compared to the influence of the British and the Americans who took their place.

yea but basically it stems from that because the US, UK and russia carved up the land and divided it so they could each have some and control the power so that there wouldn't be another Ottoman empire. Then they decided to leave didn't tell them how to run it and left a nasty mess for the locals

[Darth Cypher]

Ok, I understand about "villifying" an enemy. One thing is that I don't believe that thing about Iraq doing that thing with the babies or whatever (I'm sure you all know what I'm talking about). However, he has shot his own generals, ALLEGEDLY (still only suspicion) of killing on of his son in laws. I have heard about one of his sons who abused women. He did gas his own people.

He has done good things for his country that is true but still..... Like I have before, this is someone who once said that America is a "society that cannot accept over 100,000 dead in one battle". And of course we can't because we do care about our soldiers.

The government might legally be there (from a certain point of view) but you have to admit those "elections" he had were a bit too much of a landslide.

[jon@af]

Originally posted by Darth Cypher
...However, he has shot his own generals...

...He did gas his own people...

...those "elections" he had were a bit too much of a landslide.

those are the reasons WHY he always wins the elections, everyone is afraid for their lives.

[Cbass]

The Kurds are no more his people than the Gypsies are Czech people.

Really, it's all propaganda. Yes, he's a ruthless dictator, but no more than any dictator that the US is allied with, like the Sauds...

[Monkey-Magic-S15-R]

Originally posted by Cbass
The Kurds are no more his people than the Gypsies are Czech people.

Really, it's all propaganda. Yes, he's a ruthless dictator, but no more than any dictator that the US is allied with, like the Sauds...

and the Gypsies in England .........honestly i really do hate Gypsies

[Cbass]

Everyone hates the Gypsies.

[jon@af]

Originally posted by Cbass
Everyone hates the Gypsies.

Ive never met a Gypsie, so I really cant say that I hate them, but from the sound of them, I know I dont like them, if that makes any sense.